CLASS D MONO AMPS buy ATMASPHERE MUSIC SYSTEMS

Here are the facts that Kuribo/ASR miss.

Not a single fact, just more guru babbling not worthy of further consideration or comment.

But Ralph specifically says that his amp does have 2nd and 3rd harmonics at some level..

If I’m interested in buying a car that is grey, I don’t even think to bother the dude who is selling a red car for details about it. That’s just me. I can’t speak for we.

But if I did wish to ask about why the red car is so much better than a dull grey car, I would do so politely and with due respect for the red’s superiority.

"At some level"

What does that mean exactly? Nothing really.

If I’m interested in buying a car that is grey, I don’t even think to bother the dude who is selling a red car for details about it. That’s just me. I can’t speak for we.

Indeed, that is just you. If I am considering a $5000 amp, I would like to know a little more about it than the color. But that is just me, and probably the majority of people.

But if I did wish to ask about why the red car is so much better than a dull grey car, I would do so politely and with due respect for the red’s superiority.
 

Superiority? That has not been proven by any measure.

Thanks for the unsolicited advice.

@atmasphere ,

Will the Class D amps be upgradable?

Bob

There are many sources of distortion in class d amps, not only those you have mentioned, but also in the output filter. Do you use post filter feedback?

Yes.

Please share some measurements of the frequency response with load, THD+N with power and frequency, FFT's and IM. Also, can you share the switching frequency used? Lots of claims made here (not all by you) so it would be enlightening to see a more complete picture of how this amp performs in actuality, not how it sounds to those who haven’t heard it yet.

The frequency response is load invariant within 1/10db from 20-20KHz, with 0 degrees phase shift at 20Hz and less than 1 degree at 20KHz. The invariance due to the output impedance being a few milliOhms, the low phase shift due to the feedback value, which allows the amp to correct for phase shift at the bandwidth extremes.

THD from 20Hz- 20KHz  is < 0.1% at full power (200 W into 4 Ohms) and about 0.005% at 1 watt. We think it might be lower but finding a decent filter to knock out the residual has been tricky during the pandemic. We  found one about a week ago and are interested to see how things differ once its integrated into our test setup. The distortion is lower into 16 Ohms.

The switching frequency is just shy of 500KHz, depending on load. The input is entirely direct-coupled.

The filter I mentioned is an Audio Precision device and is used to knock out the residual to prevent it messing with the distortion analysis. If I got this right its 8th order(!) and puts the residual down about 60dB... This is why we've not posted any more distortion data since the residual throws the readings off.

@kuribo No. Purifi is last year's news, even if he is now working on a higher powered module, and Hypex... well.  GaN is state of the art--and not the generic stuff being put out by Peachtree and LSA.

And @noske, I disagree and would maintain my point.  As regards proprietary modules, power output, and price, the two products are directly comparable.  The fact that one is housed in two cases is secondary.  The Audions are nice but not only considerably more expensive but also less powerful than the Tempo di Gan.  My proposed comparison seems to me to offer the levelest of playing fields.

The frequency response is load invariant within 1/10db from 20-20KHz, with 0 degrees phase shift at 20Hz and less than 1 degree at 20KHz. The invariance due to the output impedance being a few milliOhms, the low phase shift due to the feedback value, which allows the amp to correct for phase shift at the bandwidth extremes.

THD from 20Hz- 20KHz  is < 0.1% at full power (200 W into 4 Ohms) and about 0.005% at 1 watt. We think it might be lower but finding a decent filter to knock out the residual has been tricky during the pandemic. We  found one about a week ago and are interested to see how things differ once its integrated into our test setup. The distortion is lower into 16 Ohms.

The switching frequency is just shy of 500KHz, depending on load. The input is entirely direct-coupled.

The filter I mentioned is an Audio Precision device and is used to knock out the residual to prevent it messing with the distortion analysis. If I got this right its 8th order(!) and puts the residual down about 60dB... This is why we've not posted any more distortion data since the residual throws the readings off.

 

I look forward to plots once you get your filter worked out.

At only 500Khz, what is the advantage of using GaN? None of your specs appear to be anything not already achieved or bettered by amps using good old fashioned mosfets.

Thanks for the info.