Deep Cleaning Records With Steam?

Hi Sonofjim,

Here is my opinion on this. I'm not a water expert but I was a licensed water plant operator in Florida for a decade and a half, so I know enough to be dangerous on the subject. Steam will be purer, but there are some compounds that will still present. Some are ionic compounds and will not be removed by boiling. If this was not true we could all make our own pure water at home. Too bad, because it would save us all a lot of money.

However, I do agree with you that the distilled water does work fine for steaming LPs. I think the biggest reason to use as pure of a water source as you can find is to keep the steamer clean and working properly. If you have ever replaced a heating element in an electric water heater you probably have seen how much stuff gets built up over time on the element from compounds in the water. Usually this stuff is calcium and/or magnesium compounds. Anyway, you don't want this stuff in your steamer if you can easily avoid it.

I think that if you follow a process like Stltrains demonstrated, or if you just immediately follow the steam with a cleaning solution like I do, you will keep the bad stuff from the LP and the water in suspension long enough to be able to get it off the record. IME, the best way to get this all off is to vacuum it up.

Dan ed,

Thanks for your response. You echo my summation that the biggest difference would be in the amount of muck left in the tank. This is why distilled water seems a reasonable stopping point for the steamer in this application. It appears that Stltrains has reached the same conclusion. Wouldn't you rather occasionally have to replace a $20 steamer than vaporize, for example, Walker's ultra pure water for $80 per gallon. That kind of mark up has to make even Exxon green with envy.

Gents - my 2 cents. By definitiion, steam is pure water vapor just as Sonofjim describes. Dissolved minerals and suspended solids are left behind during evaporation Some volatile organics will be evaporated as well. In practice however, the distillation process is not perfect and entrained liquid bearing minerals and other impurities will carryover - hence the need for multi-stage distillation to arrive at really pure distilled water. Equipment cleanliness, post-production transfer lines and storage vessels also affect product quality. I use the Perfection Steamer with relatively cheap grocery store bought distilled water as part of a muli-step cleaning process. I do empty the steamer after each session so as not to "concentrate up" solids left behind during evaporation. It does spit a bit but I vacuum as a final step - removing any condensed steam phase and liquid distilled water (due to spitting) from the LP surface. This is not to contracdict anyone else's more fastidious or rigorous approach...just what happens to work for me.

Readers : As I have mentioned ; use what's available, only use no less than true distilled water.

My reasoning:

I recommend Peak Battery Water(now $2.99 a gallon @ PEP Boys): Its distilled, r/o'ed(was in the past) , de-mineraled and de-ionized for about $1.75 more than good commerical grade and a lot safer that supermarket distilled water. Very, very little of the stuff our water engineer friend mentioned to gunk/clog up the hand steamer.

As for my learning curve, it consists 25 years of "on & off" research on the subject of Steam Cleaning/Water related to Certification as the Specialist-In-Charge of Substance Abuse Detection for a the United States Courts Lab.

My work demanded perfection, nothing less was acceptable to the Courts. As the result, I learned by education and practice, all distilled waters are not alike. Much of the distilled water widely available fails purity standards for Labatory use. The only supermarket water my tech's used was to be mixed with pure bleach for cleaning purposes.

The first concern for all, safety ; heating tank explosions were common place from the 18th to the 20th Century when AC became the standard. God knows how many were mamed and died of scalding or explosion on the job. Remember Gentelmen, what we are holding in our hands , in its basic form ,is the same device just a little smaller... and of course safer. But how safe ? I want to keep the odds in our favor. Why? Murphy's Law is always present : Think Challenger.

Personally, I gave a lot of consideration to design factors before making the Perfection recommendation. However, one never knows if Unit A is so-much-more safer than Unit B since nearly all are manufactured over-seas where Murphy likes to sleez. As for me, I do safety checks on the steamers and did retire one (1) due to gunk. Since using Peak, the Perfection and SteamFast 227 have worked perfectly (to today).

The ultimate consideration ... Do what you believe is correct. All the best.

OK Charles, I'm convinced. There's a "Pep Boys" about 15 miles from me and I'll be giving them a call Monday.