Does vinyl outsell the hi rez formats?

Ok, let's use the RIAA figures. In 2003 the combined SACD and DVD-A units shipped equal 1.9 million with a value of 34.3 million. Vinyl has 1.5 million units shipped with a value of 21.7 million. It's clear that SACD and DVD-A have the higher numbers.

Loon, I rant and rave about SACD everyday!!! I might suggest that you try a better player than you're currently using and I think you will too. And btw, SACD has much, much more software available than DVD-A.

Manufacturers have for a long time kept ambiguous, difficult to understand, or poorly worded statistics regarding the sale of vinyl. They do not want formats to be dictated to them.

They ooccasionally bow to pressure from artists (I use that term loosely!) and occasionally consumers, but they really don't want to sell vinyl. Compaines like Acoustic Sounds or Simply Vinyl keep good records of their sales, but they are in the minority.

There really is no accurate way to know what is being sold, especially when one considers the huge 'used' market. People will even admit this if pressed, so just enjoy vinyl while you can, and prepare stories for the grand kids!

No need to sell me on the hi rez virtues of vinyl as I figured that was a given in a vinyl forum.

From what I gather, not many beleive that dvd-a is out selling anything, and whith the re-sale of vinyl included,I am sure the total is far greater than sa-cd/dvd-a in the U.S.
The RIAA numbers look like there not counting hybrid sa-cd's, and probably counting dvd video concerts as dvd-a, so I definitly don't trust there vinyl numbers either.
The numbers as a whole smell of agenda to me.

I was just looking for a more accurate source than the RIAA numbers.

For instance, I have seen posts at the Asylum were the U.K is supposed to be selling 25-40% of all music on vinyl the last few years.

The old Sony vinyl plant in the netherlands pressing 8.5 million records in 01 ect ect.

I was more interested on vinyl vs sa-cd/dvd-a on a world basis.

Greg

UNOFFICIAL, i.e. private marketing sources give a slightly different picture for 2003. (Numbers are sales units, values are company NOT market, resellers' T-O)

sa-cd: +1,1 M units, $ 20,1M value
vinyl: +1,9 M units, $ 18,7M value

This of course includes units that have two sa-cds, or vinyls, etc.
The aftermarket for vinyl is estimated at 4x the "regular" volume but at 35% equivalent value. There was no estimation for the used sa-cd market...
Also, didn;t pick up the dvd-a figures.

Again, this is just unofficial, so probably not worth much.

The issue has to be the massive used vinyl market, the new issues of vinyl remain limited, of good quality but sometimes odd choices(as has been commented, how many versions of "kind of Blue" or others 50's/60's jazz do we need?). For me the point is the treasure trove of classical vinyl out there, in charity shops, E-bay and specialist suppliers. Unfortunately often from fellow enthusiasts, who have "moved on". How much longer are we going to have such a cornucopia of 60's/70's music, the golden age of Decca, Emi, Mercury etc. It can'nt last forever, can it?