Frustrated with Vinly

Passing your biased opinions off as fact , doesnt make them facts. You insult owners..belittle anyones property that doesnt fit your idiotic direct drive biased drivel. There are many many good tables of all drives.
This is a hobby best made as inclusive...not exclusive based on perceived value. Which in reality Chakster..you dont have. Every choice has an opinion and a reason for and why....and it isnt because you say so or exclude them as owners of toys and all the other negative crap you spew constantly. The owner of the belt drive you negate brings a 100 times more than you do...its positivity and inclusivity...try it before your island is complete.....
And for the record...the only thing the cartridge can do...is what everything its attached right down to the floor allow it to do....funny , thats why some find those technics tables cold and digital like...but thats an opinion based on their ears and first hand experience....
How many of those NEW Technics tables do you own and for how long....oh...your just repeating what anyone else could read...then apply thick bias.....

Chakster, 

First my applogies for my miss spelling of your handle, so much for my fat fingers.  Otherwise, to address my opinion of the Technics 1210GR, as an engineer, I can appreciate the engineering that has been applied.  But, I am no fan of it looks (I have a modified VPI TNT), and obviously neither is Jay.  And that is the point.  Your recommendation is one thing, but when you become so passionate as to defend it, if takes on a whole other perspective.  Hopefully, we make our best recommendation to someone when they ask, but if they do not see it the same way, that is their right.  We have no right to force the argument, since it it can then be precieved as an attack.  All persons are entitled to their pursuit of what makes THEM happy whether we agree or not.

Chak
While a lot of people can appreciate the engineering of the new Technics, not that many can stomach the looks and for some that IS very important, their are at times the better half to appease as well.

Now we all get your passion for Technics and not criticising that at all but.....
Once you have heard it a dozen times it starts to wear thin and get annoying.
It is only facts in your opinion, nothing more my friend.

Maybe a little more humility in your posting would go a long way to not alienating everybody around you?

There are a LOT of users of your so called plastic 2k belt drives of all models and I am sure they are quite insulted by your remarks.

Not myself as I do not own a belt drive, does not mean I intend to start bashing them in public though.

And no I am not going to suggest different TT for the op as that is not what the thread was originally about and only seems to have degenerated into that.

I just came up with a variation to use the inexpensive manual cleaner/drying rack

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GSSQ1MN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

*** Instead of mixing a whole batch of cleaning fluid in the tub of the cleaner (only to clean a few or 1 batch of 10) ***

normal use is: distilled water, 2 capfulls of their concentrated cleaner chemical, and a few drops of wetting agent (dishwasher rinse stuff)

*** VARIATION using Small Spray Bottle of Pre-Mixed Cleaning Fluid ***

I leave the tub empty

I remove the brushes, and spray ready mixed cleaner on the brushes to get them wet and ready, and they swell to narrow the gap between them to reach the lp surface.

I lay a sheet of plastic on the table

I spray the lp with the pre-mix, flip it over, spray other side,

in the machine with wet brushes waiting

manual spin as normal

pick up lp with provide eyeglass cloth, prevents finger oil

dry bulk of fluid manually with provided cloth, as it's normal process

into the drying rack.

rinse the tub and brushes

LOOKS, oh yeah, important, I am an Interior Designer (Corporate Office Space).

I had cool looking and performing vintage Thorens/SME, made a custom wood base for it, terrific,

Found a Technics SP-15, Plastic Base, gave it to my friend.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Technics-SH-15B3-base-dust-cover-and-hinges-Technics-SP-15-and-SP25-Turntable/323741055782?hash=item4b60787b26:g:ReMAAOSwrnRaVO67

they make a nice wood base, would perk it’s look up quite a bit.

https://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649580540-technics-sp15-sp25-plinth-great-shape/

but Thorens bearing transmitted vertical vibration too much.

So, I’ve been compromising with Plastic Technics’s for years.

Recently decided, retired, listening more, why not move up. Thought about long 12" arm. Coincidentally, MONO cartridge thread here. Learned about superb plinths made by Denon, JVC Victor.

Learned about JVC Spinners TT61, 71,81, 101 (picked 81).

OMG, learned about Victor Large Plinth CL-P2 big, solid, heavy, and fits two arms.

Put Mono together with 2 arm wood deck, got this beauty which certainly LOOKS great while being great.

https://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649563331-victor-jvc-tt-81-high-quality-quartz-lock-turntable-with-fidelity-research-tonearm/?utm_campaign=response-received&utm_source=notification&utm_medium=email

Point is, Chackster can be too ..., but he is right about the vintage Denon and JVC.

Budget,

Dual Deck with 1 arm (use for mono), convert 1,000 CAD to USD $775. add $150 ship with insurance. Add $50. PayPal 2.9% fee to convert foreign currencies: $975. delivered, Budget: $1,000. USD

Now get a nice Stereo arm of choice. I got lucky, member here, uberwaltz (thanks again) found it for me

https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/649571086-lustre-801-tonearm/?utm_campaign=response-received&utm_source=notification&utm_medium=email

Cost: $650. offer accepted. : $700. delivered, Budget: $1,000. USD

Total, delivered: $ $1,675. Budget: $2,000.

Just saying, I am in love with the LOOKS as well as the performance.

Giving your arm and cartridge the advantage of a solid base/plinth makes a big difference!