Frustrated with Vinly

Chak
While a lot of people can appreciate the engineering of the new Technics, not that many can stomach the looks and for some that IS very important, their are at times the better half to appease as well.

Now we all get your passion for Technics and not criticising that at all but.....
Once you have heard it a dozen times it starts to wear thin and get annoying.
It is only facts in your opinion, nothing more my friend.

Maybe a little more humility in your posting would go a long way to not alienating everybody around you?

There are a LOT of users of your so called plastic 2k belt drives of all models and I am sure they are quite insulted by your remarks.

Not myself as I do not own a belt drive, does not mean I intend to start bashing them in public though.

And no I am not going to suggest different TT for the op as that is not what the thread was originally about and only seems to have degenerated into that.

I just came up with a variation to use the inexpensive manual cleaner/drying rack

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GSSQ1MN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

*** Instead of mixing a whole batch of cleaning fluid in the tub of the cleaner (only to clean a few or 1 batch of 10) ***

normal use is: distilled water, 2 capfulls of their concentrated cleaner chemical, and a few drops of wetting agent (dishwasher rinse stuff)

*** VARIATION using Small Spray Bottle of Pre-Mixed Cleaning Fluid ***

I leave the tub empty

I remove the brushes, and spray ready mixed cleaner on the brushes to get them wet and ready, and they swell to narrow the gap between them to reach the lp surface.

I lay a sheet of plastic on the table

I spray the lp with the pre-mix, flip it over, spray other side,

in the machine with wet brushes waiting

manual spin as normal

pick up lp with provide eyeglass cloth, prevents finger oil

dry bulk of fluid manually with provided cloth, as it's normal process

into the drying rack.

rinse the tub and brushes

LOOKS, oh yeah, important, I am an Interior Designer (Corporate Office Space).

I had cool looking and performing vintage Thorens/SME, made a custom wood base for it, terrific,

Found a Technics SP-15, Plastic Base, gave it to my friend.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Technics-SH-15B3-base-dust-cover-and-hinges-Technics-SP-15-and-SP25-Turntable/323741055782?hash=item4b60787b26:g:ReMAAOSwrnRaVO67

they make a nice wood base, would perk it’s look up quite a bit.

https://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649580540-technics-sp15-sp25-plinth-great-shape/

but Thorens bearing transmitted vertical vibration too much.

So, I’ve been compromising with Plastic Technics’s for years.

Recently decided, retired, listening more, why not move up. Thought about long 12" arm. Coincidentally, MONO cartridge thread here. Learned about superb plinths made by Denon, JVC Victor.

Learned about JVC Spinners TT61, 71,81, 101 (picked 81).

OMG, learned about Victor Large Plinth CL-P2 big, solid, heavy, and fits two arms.

Put Mono together with 2 arm wood deck, got this beauty which certainly LOOKS great while being great.

https://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649563331-victor-jvc-tt-81-high-quality-quartz-lock-turntable-with-fidelity-research-tonearm/?utm_campaign=response-received&utm_source=notification&utm_medium=email

Point is, Chackster can be too ..., but he is right about the vintage Denon and JVC.

Budget,

Dual Deck with 1 arm (use for mono), convert 1,000 CAD to USD $775. add $150 ship with insurance. Add $50. PayPal 2.9% fee to convert foreign currencies: $975. delivered, Budget: $1,000. USD

Now get a nice Stereo arm of choice. I got lucky, member here, uberwaltz (thanks again) found it for me

https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/649571086-lustre-801-tonearm/?utm_campaign=response-received&utm_source=notification&utm_medium=email

Cost: $650. offer accepted. : $700. delivered, Budget: $1,000. USD

Total, delivered: $ $1,675. Budget: $2,000.

Just saying, I am in love with the LOOKS as well as the performance.

Giving your arm and cartridge the advantage of a solid base/plinth makes a big difference!

IF you go the JVC-Victor Plinth route,

be very cautious about an included Victor Tonearm, UA-7045 or long version UA-7082.

they can be great, but, as Chackster and others alerted me/us, VERY OFTEN the rubber gasket is deteriorated and needs replacement.

I took mine apart, figured it out, wrote a thread how to fix it.

Fear not if you want one, but, be aware of this, don’t pay too much for one, and be handy if you want to fix it yourself.

Live near me, Plainfield, NJ? I’ll fix it for you, no charge.

Not to belabor this thread, but its my understanding that there are fundamentally 3 different turntable drives:  rim drive, belt-drive and direct-drive, and there are pros and cons to each, and each has has been successfully executed.  Some think the Lenco L75 rim drive is the best,  http://high-endaudio.com/RC-Lenco.html.  There are obvious fans of the Technics and VPI coreless motor drive drive, and then there is Basis who goes to near heroic effort  to manufacture a near perfect belt  https://www.basisaudio.com/revolution-belt. For my VPI TNT that uses the Avenger baseline motor and 20-lb Classics platter, I use two belts of two different materials (not sold by VPI), EDPM to get the platter spining, and Viton to stabilize speed.  The two belts are the same length and durometer, but the different material elongation properties will cause different beating/hysteresis (belt going from tension off the platter, to relaxing after the motor before the platter). In "theory" this should reduce the risk of any resonance from multiple belts of the same material beating at the same frequency.  So, there are many ways to effectively spin that platter. However, not a plug, but I believe that VPI is the only one to manufacture all three.  But, as always, Enjoy the Music.