If you have a nice system why do you really need room treatments?

Acoustics has nothing to do with "vaudoo science"

You are misguided completely...

But if you think that some panels on a wall solve all acoustics problem you are right ... They do not... But that does not means that acoustics is a superstition created by audiophiles.. Read a book ... 😊

Lots of the acoustical treatments are voodoo science with results that may not do very much most of the time and actually served to dampen the room sound quality

I lived more than 50 years without correcting any room me too ... 😊

I’ve been in audio for 60 years, and haven’t corrected a room yet.

But unlike you i discovered and learned by experiments why and how i was wrong .😁

Most of the times because most room need it unbeknownst to the lazy owner or unbeknownst to those who anyway are unable to do it because it is a living room and they are married,

It is  most of the times the result of acoustics basic science ignorance coupled often to gear price fetichism upgrading obsession ... 😁

Sorry... I learned it the hard way ... 😊

I concur with asvjerry completely :

One could at minimum engage in some DSP magik with a furnishing shuffle, a 'to taste' rug, and pleasing fabric hangings that mask some absorption materials..

I concur with Hilde45 completely :

Seriously, improving sound does not require an elaborate listening room or a Ph.D. in acoustics. It's a hobby which requires a little knowledge and effort. Like fishing. Like golf. Give me a break -- it's not that hard. If one doesn't want to try, then that's their call. But it's not the fault of the hobby.

We cannot change or hide  the  basic truth  about audio because it is impossible for most to realize it completely... 😊

And then only speaking of gear price tags upgrades as  the solution for all people (because they dont have a dedicated room )

Or could we not as all marketing reviewers does to sell ? 😁

the real world means no dedicated listening room, probably the majority here.

I doubt that vast majority here has dedicated listening room.

This is why i did not study acoustics basic before owing one...

This is why most people dont really experiment with acoustics...

This is why they think the opposite of truth that the greater the price tags the better the sound..

This is why they dont understand with their ears/brain in real time  how and why acoustics parameters shape our sound perception ..

This is why they ignore that the costlier part of any TOP system is the room acoustics...

This is why they stay victims of gear marketting practices and reviewers ...

This is why they are consumers not creative and passive believing audio is a "taste" for some pieces of gear ...

This is why.... I will stop here ... 😊

We will all gain something being much empathic...😊

It does not takes a genius to understand that emergingsoul love to discuss by lack of social contact and being interested by audio and music came here ...

Those who come here for only accurate information are welcome...

Those who come for need of social contact must be welcome ...

If this forum were just about information it will be boring...

We can inform ourselves anywhere on the web and in articles and in books...

The main interesting thing here are the people characters...😊

To analyse some information anyway we need to know the character...