Immersive Audio and How to Achieve It


100% of music listeners prefer live music to recorded playback, why? A live performance "immerses" you and frees you up to move around the room, the dance floor and still be immersed. The goal posts have moved away from two speakers to an array of speakers all around as well as above you to reproduce the illusion of a LIVE performance. Why, in 2023, would anyone voluntarily use only two speakers to recreate this illusion of a live performance in a large room?

Even the artists themselves are using immersive audio in concert to WOW their audience, why not do it at home:

https://www.mixonline.com/live-sound/venues/on-the-cover-las-vegas-takes-immersive-live-part-1

 

kota1

At least kota1 you will attract the attention of people on the essential : stereo or not .... Room acoustic... 😊

But i will stay stereo with non amplified instruments albums recorded in good acoustic environment WITHOUT DSP treatment ...

I am child spoiled ... 😁

Someday soon AI will fill in the acoustics, but then there will still be many variables in the original recording that the listener will have to understand. Will the listener be put in the position of a listener in the audience, will the listener be put in the position of hearing direct and acoustic sound that is in the mind of the musician and producer, will the listener hear something totally apart from the experience in reality like sounds coming from every direction. I played in orchestras and jazz bands and sometimes it was wonderful hearing the instruments around me but that is a unique position that no one records for. Ultimately immersive sound is a moving target. 

 

@kota1

I watched the video.

Is the difference between us that I view immersion more in terms of the capacity of the listener while you seem to view the listener more as a passive factor, with technology facilitating immersion? Or perhaps we define immersion differently. I don’t need to have my walls "painted with sound" in order to experience what I describe as immersion. This sounds like a remedy for people’s senses having become dulled.

If one is esthetically sensitive by nature, as I am, and has experienced making music, as I have, there is no need for any "added stimulation". I’m reminded of a current local Van Gogh exhibit I read about, which incorporates blowing up and projecting his paintings onto museum walls, so people can "walk through them". As a life-long art lover and someone who's been involved in drawing, printmaking and photography, this strikes me as very odd -- that people can only perceive and appreciate art when it’s turned into an IMAX experience. 

 

 

 

Listener envelopment is a rigorous acoustic concept abbreviated by LV and the apparent source width abbreviated by ASW is also a rigorous acoustic concept ...

 

«The auditory system has mechanisms that separate the processing of late reverberation from the processing of direct sound and early reflections referred to as precedence effect. While the late reverberation contributes to the perception of listener envelopment and reverberance, the direct sound and the early reflections mostly affect source localization, intimacy and the apparent source width.[3] The balance of early and late arriving sound affects the perceived clarity, warmth and brilliance. » Wiki

Now in a small room or in vas hall acoustic there is means and acoustic design and tools to create IMMERSIVENESS which is the result of the right balance LV/ASW ...

I created it in my small room but not with only material passive treatment but i needed active mechanical one : aqn oriented grid of tuned Hemholtzs resonators around speakers and my listening position...

It was stereo on steroid as if i had many speakers... The recording trade 0ff of each musical album was plain to hear and astoundingly different between all albums..

All recording were interesting even the bad recording because the speakers/room revealed the recording engineer choices...

I lost my acoustic room selling my house, i was sad... I discovered the only headphone i can modify for my acoustic needs and now i came back here with an headphone system... An immersive one  for an headphone without the BACCH filters or no dSP associated like the Smyth realizer... The K340 is among the few  the best designed headphones ever...

Great post...

There is some truth in the idea and experience of kota1, but stereo system with no DSP and and dsp for home theater and multichannels are TWO world,..Then there is another sort of truth in stereo system...

Accoustic for small stereo room is one thing , and home theater another one...

I watched the video.

Is the difference between us that I view immersion more in terms of the capacity of the listener while you seem to view the listener more as a passive factor, with technology facilitating immersion? Or perhaps we define immersion differently. I don’t need to have my walls "painted with sound" in order to experience what I describe as immersion. This sounds like a remedy for people’s senses having become dulled.

If one is esthetically sensitive by nature, as I am, and has experienced making music, as I have, there is no need for any "added stimulation". I’m reminded of a current local Van Gogh exhibit I read about, which incorporates blowing up and projecting his paintings onto museum walls, so people can "walk through them". As a life-long art lover and someone who’s been involved in drawing, printmaking and photography, this strikes me as very odd -- that people can only perceive and appreciate art when it’s turned into an IMAX experience.