With barely "efficient" speakers (allegedly 91db) my $1200 (1500 new when available) Dennis Had Fire Bottle SEP HO amp, designed and hand built by a genuine American geezer (only mentioned because hand wired SE amps from some places cost multiples of this…Shindo anybody?), is one of the best sounding amps I’ve ever heard and produces some genuine loudness with its mighty 12 watts per side (or 17 watts…not certain)…a world class amp which made me reconsider my opinions regarding wattage and geezers.