Jolida JD 100 or Njoe Tjoeb 4000, which one?

Kemist2,I cant believe the AH 4000 with upsampler,
dont have tube output,Are you sure? Because mine
has upsampler,when I change the tube, the sound
change.Can you expalin that to me, With respect to
you, I dont buy it.

Yes, that is correct. I did only the lid. That seemed to give it much more structural integrity, a dull thump when you whack on the player at any angle.

Oz

OZ, whick parts of the CD player did dampen? Did you dampen the entire underside of the lid?

For abb@cs.com

Go to any decent specialty car audio shop to find Dynamat, or something like it. It is typically used to line trunks and door panels.

BTW, I HATE the way the Agon forum doesn't allow you to directly answer a particular post. Just line them up chronologically. Makes for a very confusing read sometimes.

Oz

I'm so sorry. I didn't mention that the Heart CD 6000 or the NJ 4000 do not sound good with original tubes. I tried several with my Heart and ended up using the recommended Amperex 6922. Very good base and beautiful midrange with the treble hanging in fine. Rolling tubes is so important with many tube components. My Heart sounded terrible even after 100 hours with the stock tubes.

Everyone always wants to compare NJ 4000 to other tubed CD players. The NJ 4000 doesn't have the good tube sound because it is a hybred output. With the upsampler it has no tube output. The "Heart CD 6000" sounds distiguishably better than the NJ 4000. Fully tubed ouput CD players always seem to sound better than hybred or transistor CD players.

I haven't heard the Jolida JD100 so I can't comment there. I know some people like it, but it is not the most popular. -- Conclusion: listen to the Heart CD 6000 before you buy. That goes for the Jolida also if you can get to hear one. You'd be surprised at how many people would be willing to let you hear their equipment. And you may find many close to you.

Oz, where is a good place to purchase dampening materian (Dynamat) from? How much is it?

I own the Ah 4000 with upsampler,Its a very good cdp,
very musical, sweetsounding, laidback,for the price
its hard to beat,The JD100 is also very good,I just
heard this 2x, I think, both times,I was totally
impressed,If I dont have the AH, I will buy the JD100
for my second system,EITHER ONE YOU CANT GO WRONG.
Right now I am using 6922 gold pin EH tube with
the Ah.

I own the Ah 4000 with upsampler,Its a very good cdp,
very musical, sweetsounding, laidback,for the price
its hard to beat,The JD100 is also very good,I just
heard this 2x, I think, both times,I was totally
impressed,If I dont have the AH, I will buy the JD100
for my second system,EITHER ONE YOU CANT GO WRONG.

I might as well chime in on this one, seeing as how you are seriously being ignored by the rest of the Goners.

I have never heard the Njoe Tjoeb, but I did recently buy a stock Jolida JD 100. I damped the inside with Dynamat, put in some Electro Harmonix tubes, and added a Sonoran power cord. After a couple hundred hours of break in and these minor tweaks, this may be the best digital I have heard in my system. For a point of comparison it replaced a Theta Data Basic II and Audionote DAC 1.1, not world class components, but no slouches they. I really want to get it over to my buddy's house to compare it to his BAT cdp.

But anyway, it's a great player in my book.

Oz