@viridian Kind of Blue or “free jazz” is the cliche you’d be happy to never hear again?
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A great acoustics/musical understanding revolution is in the making! It seems that the separations between genre as classical music for example and jazz on the other side , or any other classification by genres is less truthfull to music than the distinctions born from the way each instrumentist use his instruments in his own traditions ... Here from the mouth of the beast :
What complement this amazing findings is this one about the universal way we can map music perception on the body sensations nevermind the difference between cultures : https://www.pnas.org/doi/epdf/10.1073/pnas.2308859121
No culture win over the others, any great musician is a world in itself and all musical sensations are mapped on the human body in the same way irrespective of the genre , style or specific cultures... Musician and their instrument rules music because they rules our body trough the way they rules their own body when playing , not genres or specific cultural styles... Classical is not superior or inferior to jazz or ragas or tar Persian artistry ...
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**** I see the act of describing a “genre” (and the subsequent stringent segregation and put-everything-in-a-box attitude) as being useful only to a person for whom doing so helps them maximize their profits (corporate marketing execs, radio station programming execs, etc.). **** Couldn’t disagree more. It is useful to many avid listeners and doing so does not suggest that these listeners are incapable of talking about music in an insightful way. Quite the contrary. There is no “mongering” involved. You seem to have a deep aversion to classification. That works for you. Fine. However, as exemplified by your list of “acceptable” ways to talk about music and given how personal/subjective descriptions can be, there are times when it’s best to let the music do the talking. So, along those lines and to get back to the OP’s question, here is one of my very favorites. Sadly little known:
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Frogman is right labelling not only is useful but inevitable anyway...😊 We cannot censor labels use or worst forbid them only correcting them in a way they dont put an artist in a drawer created by the mapping of some musical factors and not by some others we did not picked.. For sure labelling do not replace reality... The maps are not the territory ... There is no debating here ... Only a simple distinction ... The way we describe the artistic gesture and the gesture itself when we hear it ... Larry Young with Joey de Francesco are my Hammond idols ...😊 Thanks to Frogman recommendation for Larry Young ...
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