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Let's Talk DAC's

My current DAC, the Chord Chordette Qute HD is getting on with age and I am looking for a new one with superior performance. So far, I have narrowed down my search to five DACs. At the low end is the Denafrips Ares II and the Eversolo DAC Z8. Mid range the RME ADI-2 and at the top end the Chord Qutest and the Denafrips Pontus II.

This is for an all-digital setup in a 12x12 dedicated room. I have a much larger room with a much "bigger" set up, but for this room it is a simple PrimaLuna Prologue Classic integrated, Audiolab 6000 CD transport, ProAc Tablette 10’s, and a REL T/5i Subwoofer. I plan to add a streamer as well, but that is for another discussion.

I am conflicted with the choice between a delta-sigma modulated DAC and an R2R type Dac. I do like the FPGA technology in my current DAC. It has served me well.

I am certainly open to other ideas and welcome comments from those of you that have experience with this equipment.

I forgot to add; I like a wide and deep soundstage and good imaging. I also hate a rolled off high end.

 

 

 

 

desperado915
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mazian
406 posts
 

I tried both of the Denafrips mentioned but bought a Pure Audio Lotus DAC 5 as it was clearly superior. Even the Denafrips distributor indicated I would have to go to the Terminator to get the equivalent SQ

desperado915 OP
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The Pure Audio Lotus DAC 5 is within my budget. I will look into it. How good is the imaging? I am an imaging junkie and in a small room with the diminutive ProAc's imaging is a priority for me. 

@oddiofyl- Good advice. I definitely want to buy from a retailer that allows returns.

vthokie83
893 posts
 

Desperado915,

If you are only interested in DACs that you can buy from a local source and test drive, then you can ignore both Musician and Denafrips. They are sold direct without a dealer network (and thus the associated 50% markup)....IMO that would be eliminating some amazing DACs.

Soix mentioned the Musician Pegasus, which is a fine DAC, I've heard it in my system and did like it. I personally prefer the Denafrips Pontus II 12th DAC at $1,850, and then from there the Musician Aquarius DAC at $2,900.

I've compared the Chord Qutest in my system, and found it lacking in all but detail....which it has in spades. I did not find it musical, fun, and could not listen to it for more than a couple of hours without fatigue (others will definitely disagree). BUT boy if you love detail and clarity, it's there.

Soix also mentioned adding a DDC (Digital to Digital Converter), which does several things: Allows I2S from the DDC to the DAC (if it has I2S connections) and that prevents the conversion of the internal I2S signal to another format and then back to I2S, cleans the signal both galvanically and optically, and then re-clocks it with a superior clock before sending to the DAC. I can tell you that the sound improvement is nothing less than terrific with the addition of a DDC.

That being said, adding a DDC depends greatly on what you streamer you plan to buy. If you're going to add low to mid priced $1,000/$1,500 units (think Eversolo, BlueSound, Topping, etc), then the DDC will be a great help. If you're looking more at the Aurender/Lumin/Innuous and their associated much higher cost, then you may find no need for a DDC.

There are hundreds if great reviews of the Pontus II DAC, and many thousands of satisfied customers. Do some reading to see if you like what they say. Best of luck on your search

vthokie83
893 posts
 

I forgot to mention my current set up for you: BlueSound Node 130 with LHY LPS, Denafrips Iris DDC, Denafrips Pontus II DAC, several amps I can use, and Buchardt Audio S400 MKII speakers. The BlueSound is not long for this world, I'll be upgrading to an Aurender/Lumin/Innuous streamer by the end of the year

allanblissett
154 posts
 

Emotiva XDA-3,  excellent sounding dac/preamp.

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