Many dealers will only discount systems, where they can bury the discount on a price-controlled piece on another component that isn't price controlled. For instance, when I sold gear, you could not sell JBL's for less than MSRP or you'd likely lose the franchise. But other gear we sold was not price restricted, so we wrote up the JBL's at list price and knocked 25%,35% or even 40% off the price of some other piece(s). McIntosh was once strictly price controlled and usually had only one or two dealers in a market, but under the new ownership, where they are offering franchises willy-nilly it seems, a dealer may be more willing to deal. Just my two cents.