MoFi controversy

Be interesting to see if this affects sales of their new tables…

Not saying it should…but…to me it tarnishes the entire brand.

I don’t own any Mofi pressings anymore…the original pressings always sounded as good or better to me…I did have a Dark Side of the Moon “Half Speed Master” I sold for big bucks… the half speed master stuff now seems a bit dubious too.

I was actually considering one of their tables recently…might still grab one someday…but would definitely be looking for good discounts.

@tomcy6 

So what is the significance of MoFi claiming that there final conversion to analog comes from DSD instead of PCM?
 1) to me this is a tacit admission that DSD is at least as good, if not better, than pure analog, if MoFi feels that stressing this point will do damage mitigation 

2) it therefore follows from 1 that playing a DSD files purely in the digital realm, as opposed to embedding those files in a slab of petroleum and then extracting them with a needle slashing through grooves, must be a superior way of reproducing those files.

3) listeners who think that those aforementioned digital files embedded in petroleum sound better than when those files are kept purely in the digital realm are in fact enjoying the reproduction of artifact.

Now I am ok with people enjoying artifact.  What has always been bothersome about the Analog or Die! crowd is the pseudo religiosity of their movement.  Consider:

1) They assert that there is only one true path

2) We had fallen from Grace by abandoning that true path ( adopting digital)

3) A few Righteous Prophets kept the flame alive during the persecution (the years of Digital Ascendancy and the near disappearance of Vinyl)

4) Now the Truth has been revealed! The Righteous have triumphed! LPs reign again!
5) Non believers can be saved only by converting to the true path .  And sinners that secretly dabble in alternative religions and are discovered must be cast out.  Therefore M. Fremer must cast out those MoFi records that he previously extolled because they have been found to be unclean.

  I could go on but enough already.  I am getting back into vinyl because:

1) some lps in my preferred genre are not available digitally 

2) some remastered lps sound terrible and are sonically preferable , warts and all, in the original vinyl issue

3) lp playback can be enjoyable for reasons unrelated to sound quality.

  I just want to listen to music.  I don’t need the whole dogma that comes with various media.  And I am pleasantly surprised that most of the posts that I have read here are from like thinkers

@mahler123 - please don't lump me in with the religious vinyl fanatics out there. If there is anyone who thinks it is impossible for some form of digital audio to sound better on some albums (or at least as good as vinyl), they are nuts. Especially since many were recorded digitally. I never had a reel to reel player, but it seems the religious vinyl nuts should try that - supposedly there is universal agreement that it is better than vinyl.

In general, I avoid fanatics about anything. Fans are OK - fanatics/extremists, not so much.

I had a CD player because I couldn't get new vinyl in the 90's. Unplugged it when vinyl became available again about 10 years later. Bought the ones I liked the most on vinyl and kept the CDs for the car and garage. To me vinyl sounded much better, except with the rare noisy record. 

Since then, CD players have improved, streaming came along, Hi res DLs became available, etc. I had/have a very nice collection of vinyl (some audiophile pressings are excellent - some aren't) and wasn't going to move to digital. However, if I were starting out today, I would go digital of some sort. Probably streaming....

@mahler123, You misunderstood my post. johnss made a post about MoFi converting its DSD files to PCM for mastering, adding more conversions to their mastering process. I just stated that at this point MoFi says they do not convert their DSD files to PCM for mastering, they convert the DSD files back to analog for mastering. I can’t vouch for MoFi, we’ll just have to wait and see how this all plays out.

I don't have any problem with DSD, PCM or analog.  They all can sound great.