I bought a pair of Vienna Acoustic Beethovens, rosewood finish, store demos from tweeter around 2004 and 10 years later I decided to upgrade my speakers and sold the VA's first were the R107/2, then the F52's then the salon 1's then the VA strauss then the salon 2's then the usher be-20 dmd's...and finally I went back to a used pair of VA Beethoven's! All the speakers did some things better but at the end of my search for the holy grail of loudspeakers I found out I was really lucky when I stumbled onto the beethovens.