Nagra VPS or Tron Seven Ref phono stages?


My cartridge is a Clearaudio Accurate; best settings 400 ohms loading 50-60dB gain

Comparison of the two please from anyone who has experience of both

Thanks in advance
David
agathe79
The Nagra VFS... is pretty expensive as a anti-vibration platform. What impacts did you get with this? Hopefully not a cleaner, sterile, thinner sound....
Cleans up the soundstage and brings out more relaxed and warm sound but a bit more detail due to lower noise floor, I agree it's pricey, but really looks good also...so not more clean/sterile for sure...

I suspect something like a symposium ultra or gran prix apex footers are also great idea for less $
I too own a PL-L and it is located on a Grand Prix Audio Monaco rack with F1 shelves. Despite my skepticism, the VFS actually improved the presentation in ways similar to what Jfrech mentioned over placing it on the Monaco directly. I purchased it.
...what about manley labs steelhead or lamm lp2?

These are something different.They do a lot of things right (tone, staging, swing, body, size, time differences...) but of course it depends on you what you expect and demand. The Steelhead is interesting, there is much worse out there. The Lamm LP2 is a unit you will only know how good it is when you know what others do wrong. Lamm offers that one in a - non promoted series for the fanatic low output MC owner - high gain version, 70dB without extra pricing instead of 58dB.... 'nuff said :-)
I haven't heard the Nagra, but I have heard the TRON. Anyway forget what I've heard. Thomas Woschnick (the TW Acustic turntable designer) uses a TRON Seven Reference in his own system. Apparently he wouldn't let GT take the TRON back to the UK after GT brought it to his home to listen to last year. Now I would trust TW's judgement.