Need a new integrated, what say you?

I’m in need of a new integrated amp. My old ML 383 had developed issues and was in need of a refurbish. This wasn’t in my budget so it was sold, along with some other hifi items that were no longer needed, to allow for a new integrated. My budget is roughly $2,000 or less. Room specs are roughly 12x12 with an extended outcove area of approx 5x7. My speakers are about 6.5ft apart (center to center) and I sit roughly 8ft away. So my system is in a small room and in a nearfield-ish arrangement. Speakers are Revel F30’s and source is Cambridge 851C. As for integrateds, I was thinking about the matching Cambridge 851A, Parasound Halo (original), and Hegel H160. A friend of mine is selling a Primare I21 and had thought about that too. This is a 75 at 8, 125 at 4 integrated, but reportedly has grunt to push bigger speakers. Looking for other suggestions and guidance.


Baffles me, how no one seems to ever mention Lyngdorf (except me, lol).


Since this is a used gear site, I’m thinking keeping an eye out on this and other sites for the biggest TDAI you can justify would provide you with a superior room control tool and truly innovative digital design. Read the reviews, it’ll sell itself.

Not kidding.

My understanding is that you can run a favorite amp, which would allow you to add tubes to the equation, if that’s what you prefer.

Their ICC technology alone, is so uniqe and innovative, not to mention their approach to class D amplification. Apparently, not enough folks have experienced it for it to create a stir. ICC is some type of anti-clipping algorithm or something, feel welcome to correct me on that.

After reading a ton of reviews I decided that the biggest bang for the buck on the used market anyway (because I wanted the most muscle for the money) was the first generation 2170, which is 170 watts @ 4 ohms. It can kick hard.

The newer genearation has wireless control, which would be real nice, but I saw the 2170 as the biggest bang for the buck.

The thing I’ve enjoyed the most is the totally quiet background. One reviewer recommended that Lyngdorf should look in to trademarking the term Blackground. Another called it the best he had ever heard, as far as a quiet background.

I’ve had my TDAI 2170 for three months now. I’m a believer. Btw, before I made the leap, I was using a Cambridge Audio 751R and loved it. Great performance, for what it is, but the Lyngdorf is a whole new ballgame.

Would love to hear what others have to say about how different their technology is.




I agree with any of the current Hegel line. Even the H95 has a damping factor of 2000. Plus it has a decent DAC. The H190 has a better DAC than the H160 plus I believe the amplification has changed to the Sound Engine 2. The H190 at $2000+ will be amazing. For a streamer buy a used BlueSound Node 2i for $200 unless you have that covered. 

Rogue Audio Pharaoh II Integrated. This is my fourth Rogue Integrated Amp as I've moved up the line. First was the Sphinks 1, then 2, then Cronus Magnum II, and now the Pharoah II. Lots of Power. Loads of manipulation. SS Power with Tube PreAmp Hybrid. American made and backed. Nick and Mark always available by phone. Very Affordable...Great Value!! Strong Dealer Network. Good Luck. No Disappointment!

I would try a creek 4330 se. I have a friend with similar speakers and room as you. He has had a ton of gear over time. Can’t figure out what he wants but has had most of the above recommended gear and it all sounded great. We all are insane but my friend is super insane.

+1 on the belles. Belles always will sound good but especially around the holidays.