New Tekton Pendragons On The Way

Timhru,

The upward tilt of the Meadowlarks might be helping with soundstage and imaging by changing and delaying reflections somewhat, especially in a modest to smaller size room.

The isoacoustics stands I use with my Triangle Titus monitors also provide optional upward tilt (in addition to decoupling the speakers from the floor which cleans up the bass and enhances all the rest as well accordingly) and the difference with and without those stands in regards to both detail and imaging/soundstage is night and day in my wife's 12X12 with cathredral ceilings, acoustically challenged sunroom.

The larger Isoacoustics stands might fit/work with the Tektons...not sure about the size specifics. if so might be worth a try.

Thanks Mapman. I meant to address your comments but ran out of time.
I have the M-lores placed on 2.5 inch MDF plinths. The plinths are firmly spiked to the floor and the M-lores are stick to the plinths with blu-tac. I tried the speakers tilted back a few degrees but preferred them with about .5 degree tilt.
Oddly though, my room is also 12x12 (within a few inches) with a 3x6 ft bump for entry door. The room was very disappointing when I first set the system up. Even with room treatments the room was just bad.
I read a thread on another site talking about square rooms and how to make them work. The solution I found was using a diagonal set up for the speakers. Amazing results. If you have some spare time and haven't tried it, give it a shot. I'd love to read your reaction.

I have 12X12 cathedral ceiling sunroom (on second level) and 12X12 office directly below at foundation level.

I've used diagonal setup in the office from time to time with good results. At foundation level, sound energy transferred to the floor is a non issue with both rooms there so nothing special needed below any speakers I use there.

On teh second level, with suspended plywood floors typical with newer construction, the floor transmits a lot of energy in both rooms there and isolation from the floor is key.

Can't use diagonal placement practically in teh sunroom, but the Isoacoustics stands with just a slight tilt up in a more conventional speaker setup otherwise does teh trick to a tee. Spiking conventional taller heavy stands to the floor on that level does not work nearly as well. In teh small room teh low placement with slight upward tilt and the isolation capabilities of the Isoacoustics stands in particular are the key. In my other second level larger room, I have the bottom ported OHM Walsh speakers there on Auralex subdude platforms for similar isolation.

I find with the upper level floors, you have to totally isolate the speakers from teh floor for best results in regards to detail soundstage and imaging. The devil is in teh details of the stands/solution used and how effective they are at isolating from as opposed to coupling with the loosy goosey floor.

In a small room in general, low placement with upward tilt essentially tricks teh speakers into thinking the room is larger and help with soundstage and imaging specifically, similar to corner placement.

Could effective isolation from the floors still be an issue in your case with teh Tektons? if so, might be worth addressing before giving up.

"And I'll admit I'm crazy for 3d sound. Maybe it comes from the 80s when I owned the Bose 901s:)"

You should have kept the B word to yourself. If the moderators catch you pulling a stunt like that, you'll be ex-communicated for life.

I am a 3-D sound fanatic as well. But it's the SOTA mbl demo I heard a few years ago in a very well done custom showroom that drives me there. That and what I hear at live performances. I will never have any rooms like those to work with most likely, but have managed to do pretty well with a somewhat reasonable budget in the rooms I have, some more so than others. In all cases you have to take the room and acoustics into account and go from there. Each room is at least a little different, some way more so than others.