On ''what there is''

There is no such thing as ’’rationality’’ to find
in human history.

Pythagoras. Galileo. Newton. The guy with the frizzy hair.

I thought at was MC.  Could it be Einstein.  Maybe the two are like in kind.

Maghister , You missed many important ''points''. Logic
does not say which propositions are true or false but that
two contradictory propositions can't be both true. Also
that from false assertion no true deductions can be made.
Also that  proposition are true or false independent  from
our will. Then rationality is not an ''thing'' or ''object'' but
human attitude expressed by actions. Those actions 
have caused many disasters . You can't ignore this
with your verbalism nor by assuming ''consciousness'' as
the old Greek '' deus ex machina''. The ''meanings'' you
assume are meanings of words or ''concepts'' which are
statement about language not reality. The same illusion
as by old philosopher. In Germany btw they are still using
''notions'' or ''concepts'' so they missed the ''transition''
to sentences, statements or propositions as linguistic
entities which can be true or false independent of
our willingness.  

Maghister , You missed many important ’’points’’.

Perhaps and certainly if i want to be honest, but for me you miss many more... :)

Anyway i want here to thank you for the discussion initiated by you...

You can’t ignore this
with your verbalism nor by assuming ’’consciousness’’ as
the old Greek ’’ deus ex machina’’.

For you consciousness is a ghost in a box...

 If you want to undertand what is "consciousness" and why it is not an "illusion" but the root of reality... I cannot convince you with words...Even with a book about all human history by genius like the german poet And thinker : Jean Gebser "the ever present origin"...

Reading the treatises of Goethe in science and his maxims could help to figure it out...
After all Goethe is the greatest thinker in germany: Shakespeare + Newton in the same head...So deep even today Goethe is underestimated save by genius like Cassirer and other great thinkers....

Kant is great but not on the same level....It is an academic professor so great it was... Beside them what is Frege? :) the greatest logician is Kurt Goedel...

Anyway discussing with you is interesting and i will not try to convince you....

Consciousness is not an argument in a discourse, it never was, but the landscape where all there is, is.... "he origin ever present"...

Buddhah discourse, Lao Tse, or Christ.... This is also  "thinking" not only blind religion....Thinking is not propositional calculus nor scientific proposition about matter or reality ...It is way deeper...


By the way i studied linguistic and my master is a french genius who wrote 40 books : Gustave Guillaume ...

He is the founder of a neurolinguistic approach to language...

I cannot made a short introduction to all that here....

Alas we dont know each other in reality.... Only through short posts...

I apologize if i was "rude" .... I am passionnate ... and i apologize to be ignorant about cartridges....All audio subject interest me for sure...But i lost my turntable eons ago for practical reason..

My best to you...

Fact is just a particular probability density function, fleeting as that might be… Even the so called God Particle lives but a short “ life “.


i was wondering when Field of Blackbirds might enter the rational picture…