On ''what there is''


The question looks ''philosophical'' in the sense of ''what exist?''. In the old terminology ''ontology question''.
The modern formulation (by Quine) is: ''what are the values of your variables''? In our hobby ''what are
the new available components''?  Can one person know what are available components? Obviously not
but we have ''collective knowledge''. Each contribution is welcome. Like in science. But like in science there
are individuals with special contributions. Raul with his MM contributions and his ''successor'' chakster
with his contributions about ''both kinds'': MC's and MM's. Despite his ''modest means''. I think we should
be thankful to have such individuals.
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There is no such thing as ’’rationality’’ to find
in human history.
Rationality is not an object supposed to exist, nor a concept only supposed to be eternal... Latin rationality inherited from the greek Logos... It is a living RELATION, an internal TOTALITY encompassing what we call "reality" now, which is material only, discourse and speech and consciousness and thinking mind... The transformation of this internal totality of experience in Three external totalities is the passage from the beginning of our civilization to the actual "hubris" and Faustian will of our own actual world, culminating in technological idolatrry called transhumanism...Which is the absolute death of reason by separating it from freedom and then separating it from the reality and from language....

Rationality is a meaningful creation by imaginative moral perception...

When someone say: "Dont do to others what you dont want the others did to you, " this person by a FREE act of moral perceptive imagination create a NEW reality where it is possible to experiment in himself what others will feel...Without this freedom this is not possible...Free moral imaginative perception is a new organ of perception literally.... How can we perceive pure love without it?

Rationality is a NEW meaningful phenomenon created in the cosmos and it came into being by a free act of thinking ONLY....It is not a dead rule... But something that is born new each day , it is evolutive growing process...

Then rationality exist at the same time like an absolute creation and like an absolute new world...It is the living link between the two...

What is reality without rationality: a nightmare who work to exist and will disapear...Look in an horror movie

What is reality with rationality : something no numbers can define, a changing, evolving, meaninful growing living new cosmos...

Calling that wishful thinking is abolishing freedom...And calling that wishful thinking is negating reality not endorsing it...It is endorsing a condemned reality promised to disapear not by a judging God external to it but by the power of our freedom...



Reality need us to exist....If not, something lack for his perpetuation as conscious life....

Kant was wrong... what moves human being to act is not an external God or an external imperative , a duty... It is freedom to love....


Miyostin, The ’’shorthand’’ description of truth is ’’correspondence
with reality’’.

Truth come into being by participation not ONLY by an EXTERNAL correspondance between language,mind and reality...This participation participated to an INTERNAL totality of meaning between reality, mind and language... Technology is powerful but BLIND... Technology is not science itself.... And science is not ONLY knowledge... It is not enough for science to exist....It lack free consciousness and moral perceptive and creative imagination....The cult of technology is an idolatry of power without science nor reason...

All misunderstanding in philosophy mostly come with the lost of an innate meaning and the freedom of pure power inherited by the emergence of nominalism...It was a detotalisation of the original logos...History after biological evolution could not exist without this pure act of possible freedom without this lost of innate meaning which was an original "programmation" of consciousness...This history is a revelation (apocalypsos in greek ) of our own FREE being ....We are free to create hell or heaven.... It is not religion here.... Read science fiction book.... Like "Blade runner" inspired by Philip K. Dick....

Any act of perceptive and creative moral imagination is a prophecy or a potential prediction... We choose between horror or beauty... Freely....


They still need to discover Frege. So in this case Americans and
English (Russel) were first.
By the way it is impossible to understand history of philosophy which is also an history of consciousness ( like music history is or art history etc) without going back to the origin of our own civilization with the birth of nominalism and BEFORE at the times of Parmenides...

But it will take a book for me to explain that not a post....
There is no such thing as ’’rationality’’ to find
in human history.

Pythagoras. Galileo. Newton. The guy with the frizzy hair.

I thought at was MC.  Could it be Einstein.  Maybe the two are like in kind.
Maghister , You missed many important ''points''. Logic
does not say which propositions are true or false but that
two contradictory propositions can't be both true. Also
that from false assertion no true deductions can be made.
Also that  proposition are true or false independent  from
our will. Then rationality is not an ''thing'' or ''object'' but
human attitude expressed by actions. Those actions 
have caused many disasters . You can't ignore this
with your verbalism nor by assuming ''consciousness'' as
the old Greek '' deus ex machina''. The ''meanings'' you
assume are meanings of words or ''concepts'' which are
statement about language not reality. The same illusion
as by old philosopher. In Germany btw they are still using
''notions'' or ''concepts'' so they missed the ''transition''
to sentences, statements or propositions as linguistic
entities which can be true or false independent of
our willingness.  

Maghister , You missed many important ’’points’’.
Perhaps and certainly if i want to be honest, but for me you miss many more... :)

Anyway i want here to thank you for the discussion initiated by you...

You can’t ignore this
with your verbalism nor by assuming ’’consciousness’’ as
the old Greek ’’ deus ex machina’’.
For you consciousness is a ghost in a box...

 If you want to undertand what is "consciousness" and why it is not an "illusion" but the root of reality... I cannot convince you with words...Even with a book about all human history by genius like the german poet And thinker : Jean Gebser "the ever present origin"...

Reading the treatises of Goethe in science and his maxims could help to figure it out...
After all Goethe is the greatest thinker in germany: Shakespeare + Newton in the same head...So deep even today Goethe is underestimated save by genius like Cassirer and other great thinkers....

Kant is great but not on the same level....It is an academic professor so great it was... Beside them what is Frege? :) the greatest logician is Kurt Goedel...

Anyway discussing with you is interesting and i will not try to convince you....

Consciousness is not an argument in a discourse, it never was, but the landscape where all there is, is.... "he origin ever present"...

Buddhah discourse, Lao Tse, or Christ.... This is also  "thinking" not only blind religion....Thinking is not propositional calculus nor scientific proposition about matter or reality ...It is way deeper...


By the way i studied linguistic and my master is a french genius who wrote 40 books : Gustave Guillaume ...

He is the founder of a neurolinguistic approach to language...

I cannot made a short introduction to all that here....

Alas we dont know each other in reality.... Only through short posts...

I apologize if i was "rude" .... I am passionnate ... and i apologize to be ignorant about cartridges....All audio subject interest me for sure...But i lost my turntable eons ago for practical reason..

My best to you...