Ortofon Red on Thorens TP16 tonearm

The Red should be fine. This arm isn't good enough to justify spending on the higher priced cartridges.

Cheaper Nagoka's esp. the MP 110 work great on this arm.

"This arm isn't good enough to justify spending on the higher priced cartridges"......... I find this is not true If you have upgraded the tables wiring and possibly rewired the TP16 also. This Arm can then be used with the cartridges mentioned and it WILL sound very engaging. DO not use any Nagaoka as they come across very mediocre and bland on this TP16 (Nagaoka makes great carts). THE cartridge for this tone arm IS a GRADO Prestige wood body. (high or low output) Spend the $ on one and you will be amazed at the performance you can achieve with this tone arm.

So it is true if you haven't upgraded the wiring? ;-)

In your opinions, does the lower mass Mk II arm raise the bar?