poor vinyl


has anyone else experienced purchasing albums online (not through audiogon) that were not in the condition they stated. I recently purchased several albums that were supposed to be vg to nm. Insted all were the kind you would find in the dollar bin at a local record store

Are general ratings standard. Like nm means almost new.
vg possibly some light scuffs.etc.
eralff

Showing 2 responses by m2sweeneys

There are other fairly extensive threads on this topic on A'gon if you are looking for more information. At any rate,
I buy frequently from ebay / A'gon. Ebay is absolutely a "roll of the dice" as far as buying used vinyl. I have not received items, I have on at least 2 occasions received items rated "mint" or "Ex" and simply thrown them away after playing them because their condition rendered them unlistenable. I have also found some highly desireable l.p.s in mint shape for reasonable prices. My interests are rather "specialized" - that is,I buy traditional folk music (Ir., English, Scandanavian, etc.). In that respect, ebay is an invaluable resource.

Some sellers provide a great service by explaining their grading systems in fine detail. Other sellers just pick a grade. In either case, there is no guarantee unless the seller notes it on their auction. I use the Goldmine Grading system when I sell records. Any interested buyer can easily locate the details of that system on-line.

In general, when buying from either ebay or A'gon record sellers, I check feedback and once I have established that an individual grades accurately and is reliable, I peruse their offerings whenever possible. When buying on ebay I always look for sellers who specialize in music and who have limited interest / knpwledge and who may simply be trying to sell l.p.s they came across at a garage sale.

In the end, when you buy used vinly unseen, you pays your money and you takes your chances!

Best of luck,
Mike
Opalchip makes an excellent point about the reluctance of buyers to give negative feedback on ebay. Of course, that might compound the problem because then a seller who has sold misgraded l.p.s but has not received negative feeback can use the fact that they have limited or no negative feeback as "proof" their grading is honest and accurate. As I stated in an previous post, if you buy used vinly sight unseen, you are always taking a gamble of some measure.