Psvane Teflon capacitors real or fakes?

This seems unambiguous to me:

It is for improving your audio system performance. These Copper foil Teflon file capacitors are professionally manufacturered with Oxygen free copper foil and pure teflon film to achieve the best audio improvements over other type of caps.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/497035129/Psvane_Teflon_Copper_Foil_Capacitor_0.html

And this:

These Copper foil Teflon file capacitors are professionally manufacturered with Oxygen free copper foil and pure teflon film to achieve the best audio improvements over other type of caps.

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?121838-New-Psvane-CuTF-Caps

(Polk Audio! Somebody should tell them!)

And this:

Psvane Reference Cap, High End Capacitor, handwound with Teflon Copper Foil!

http://www.tubeampdoctor.com/en/shop_Capacitors_High_End_Capacitors/Psvane_Reference_Cap_0_1uF_0_5_600VDC_3201

And this:

pcX has begun to stock the PSVANE Reference line of Copper Foil & Teflon Film Capacitors.

http://www.partsconnexion.com/t/econnexion/0911/sep11.html

And so on.

Mylar capacitors, sold around the world, marketed as teflon. I'm sorry, but GF's "translation" excuse doesn't hold water, cuz everybody's translating the same.

I am surprised to Parts Connexion is on radio silence for this discourse. Are they even aware? There are some good names, hard earned reputations at stake here.

Hi everybody, I am a Hong Konger and we Chinese are the same as Westerners, as far as the interpretation of "what a copper teflon capacitor means" is concerned----it must be refering to the foil and film material, NOT THE LEADS. There is no cultural difference, or any such errors caused by the difference between Chinese/Western language communication issue. Cheers!

With all due respect, Rachel (I understand you may simply be the messenger here), I feel compelled to remove some of the wool from the “official response” you posted by Psvane.

>>> Psvane’s Polyester/Mylar capacitor was marketed with “Teflon film” prominently used in its description- not “Teflon insulation”, or “Teflon leads”. This was used on the official Psvane website, Grant’s website, eBay ads, as well as the Alibaba listing by K&D Industrial. None of this marketing material referred to ‘Polyester’, ‘Mylar’, or ‘BoPET’. It takes a rather generous dose of hubris to put forth the explanation provided in the “official response”, IMHO.

>>> That “plastic sheet used between the conductors”, despite your response to downplay its importance, defines what a Teflon capacitor is… not the lead material's dielectric, end-fill, outer wrap, or label. It is incongruous that the insulation of a cap’s lead material would deserve such strong marketing emphasis, when it’s simply a polyester (also marketed as Mylar) dielectric cap, IMHO.

>>> Up until the last few days, Psvane was using the term “CuTF” for its online marketing, and its own website. This, despite my numerous e-mail requests made (since September, 2011) for Grant and Psvane to cease and desist using this V-Cap trademark of genuine OFHC Copper Foil and Teflon Film dielectric capacitors.

>>> I'd like to present this scenario for your consideration: If a Psvane competitor used the term “Treasure” to market its own vacuum tube line – and this competitor purported to use similar materials to Psvane’s line of tubes, would Psvane consider this an attempt to "copy", or at the very least an attempt to dilute their brand, as well as unfair attempt to harvest search engine queries for Psvane's product trademark? Or does this scenario only apply to a company who has little hope for any enforcement of trademark protection in China?

Best regards,

Chris VenHaus
V-Cap
VH Audio

All excellent points Chris.

I think it's VERY clear here what was being done and it's pretty disgusting in my opinion.