Ref. 3a , GMA & Tyler compare ?


Based on my last thread , I am taking your advise and looking for a monitor speaker for my small (10 X 11 ft.) room . The Ref 3a De Capo i, GMA Calisto and Tyler Linbrook Signature monitors have come up in my searches the most . I would like to know their different characteristics .
I will be using them in the nearfield , sometimes at low listening levels , sometimes at high levels and for long periods of time with various types of music . I would like the versatility of being able to use tubes or SS amps. It would be great if these could grow with my system as it matures and evolves .
All of you have been very helpful in the past and I am quite thankful .

Thank you .
saki70
>> your tastes are a bit more bright (but not overly so)
>> then the Callistos may be what you are looking for...

something is not right here when a person calls the Callisto "bright"!!
I've heard these speakers & would not call them bright in any way, shape or form.
Maybe the Linnbrooks are warm/soft just as some tube amps have that tubey sound from the 1970s & 1980s?
(I'm trying to get a feel for the Linnbrook sound using just words! ;-) )
I've owned and used Reference 3A MM DeCapos (non-i version) and Tyler Tylo Reference Monitors in my smallish room. They are setup in a nearfield setup. For my room and taste, I easily prefer the DeCapos. The bass is more solid and well defined, the midrange is better developed and the highs are just right. I also like the idea that you can drive them with almost any amp (in a small room). I've used everything from a 1.5 watt/channel 45 amp, 5 watt/ch. 2A3 tube amp, 40 watt "chip amp" and 170 watt HT receiver.

If you can find a pair of DeCapos at a good price, buy them and try them. They are very popular, so you could just re-sell them if you didn't love them.

Enjoy,

TIC
This is great guys , thank you .
I will be able to audition the De Capo's , hopefully this weekend . But the others will have to be decided here , probably as compared to the De Capo's .

Bombaywalla ; I feel your pain . It can be rather difficult to get a feel for something with just words .

Ruebent ; That is interesting . I would've thought that the Tyler's would be a tough act to beat due to the components used . I guess implementation is what counts . What size is your room and how close to the speakers are you sitting ? Do they have body and presence at low listening levels ?

Heli_dog ; Good link , thank you .

Chadlinz ; That is an interesting question , I will try to ask the manufacturer .

Drseid ; what components accompanied the Callisto's in the demo that you heard ? Did the other auditioner buy the Callisto's ?

Thanks people , keep them coming .
Saki, I'm posting only because of a couple of comments above might mislead you. FWIW as I have no experience with either the DeCapos or the Calisto's and my experience with the Tylers is the Linbrook Signature 1 piece floor stander's - My point of comparison is the Quad 63's and Paragon Jubilee/Jem, both of which are very neutral and revealing systems.

The Tylers are a tad warmer thru the lower mid-range BUT the bass is tight and the mid-range/highs are very detailed/transparent without being bright.

Contrary to what Bombaywalla sez (and I don't note that he sez he has actually listened to Linbrooks) these speakers are NOT reminiscent of soft/mushy tube stuff from the 70's and 80's NOR are they made artificially bright to give a false impression of detail and transparency.

Note that Rubent is talking about totally different speakers. Different box and drivers. The Linbrooks are a meaningful upgrade from the Reference monitors. The Seas millenium tweeter makes a hugh difference, as does the MTM set up and increased mid-range bass response from having two drivers to cover.

As I said, FWIW.
I've never heard the Ref. 3a or Tylers, but I own a pair of Callistos. Back when I was auditioning "bookshelf" speakers I went to as many places I could to audition. B&W, Paradym, Von schweikerts, used Revel M20s, a few others I can't remember. All sounded very nice and I'm not trying to rag on any of these companies. I was lucky enough though to have a friend with a pair of GMA Europas, which I had not even heard of before. I don't know much about describing the differences, but it was not subtle. Granted, I listened to them in a home set up, but they were definitely not paired with what I would call great equip, nor set up in well dampened room etc. IMO the audio shops had better amps, sources, and cables etc. than my friend. That sold me on GMA. I found a demo pair of Callistos and haven't looked back. I still feel after a year or so, that I made the right choice. I suggest you try as hard as possible to audition a GMA product before buying anything. You may or may not like them, but they're definitely worth it to try them out!