Seeking advice for speakers for my Family Room

@carlsbad yes, that is exactly what I intend to do down the road....

@vinylvin I do have the Polks all the way around in my media room, I was going to try and bring those down to the Family Room and try them out..

@auxinput  Will look into Marantz and the discrete analog output

@tony1954 @ricmci @markpop1227  @audiotroy Sounds like I need to attend to the room acoustics first (rather than later).

Will do that and report back.

@singere Meanwhile I found a dealer who actually had the Sonus Faber Lumina V's on the floor, I went by to audition them and I loved them! They didn't have too much in room treatments, so I think with some room treatments (larger rugs, shades/curtains for all windows, some more art or acoustic panels on the walls) with the Lumina V's should be a whole lot better. 

@ronboco I never auditioned Focal's, just went by what I had heard/read about them being brigher (slightly?) than the SF, but man these SF's sounded so good and looked fabulous too.

@searchingforthesound Yes, that is the plan. Another vote for Marantz.

@jonwolfpell @dbensky Thanks for the suggestions/offers, never even heard of some of these speakers. I am still a newbie in this space..:-) 

@soundmd Excellent suggestion on what exactly to do for the room issues. It makes sense to put the speakers wider so that they are in front of the windows for the window treatments to absorb the sound. Will look into acoustic panels, larger rug and artwork on the side wall. The back wall is going to be an issue. Will work on the other things first and see if that makes it acceptable. 

For speakers, i guess it jives well that I loved the SF's, they have the soft dome tweeter!

@sandthemall I pretty much expected to hear it reg the room. 4-5 times larger than the current one? Wow, so the entire surface in front of the speakers should be rug?

I think I can sell that to the wife. Actually, that will help solve the problem of the couch's feet making marks on the white tile! I started looking into vcoustics: https://www.vcoustics.com/, sounds like a whole new thing to research.

Based on all the responses here, I will try and fix my room acoustics first before getting new speakers, thanks all!

For this, do I need to hire an acoustician to tell me what type of acoustic panels go where etc? Sounds like that might be overkill and i would get 80% of the return by just doing the basic things:

-Much larger rug in front of the TV/speaker area going under the couch'

-Add curtains on the windows to the sides of the TV

-Larger wall art on the left side wall

-Re-evaluate. I don't know if I can/want to do anything about the back tile wall. This was the look we wanted...

-Ceiling treatment? What kind?

-Do these wall art panels need to be a certain thickness to be effective at sound absorbtion?

KG,

Glad you're addressing room acoustics before making any equipment changes.  You can spend a fortune on equipment, but if your acoustics are bad you'll never get great sound.  I don't think you have to go overboard on treatment either.  Adding a larger rug and heavy drapes will go a long way on lowering the room glare.  A  2" canvas covered art panel will do some good and won't stick out visually in a Family room setting.  If this were a dedicated listening room I would go with 4" or 6" thick panel; I'm considering the spousal acceptance factor here. 

You could use a much larger artwork here or perhaps a two piece diptych. These really are a relatively low cost way to go.  Do all these changes one at a time and you'll see how each one helps.  Let me know how it goes.  This is one of the fun parts of this hobby, these small changes can add up to big improvements.  Hey, where is your sub located?

Room treatments should be number 1 on your list.  GIK acoustics makes some attractive panels with scatter plates or the art decco series looks like pictures hanging on your wall. I’d get those little triangle things to put in the top corners of the room. Having good room treatments will make the entire place more relaxing even in silence.  Conversations, especially with 4,5,6 people in the room, will be much easier heard and more easy to understand (speech intelligibility).  

After room treatments, hunt down some warm, laid back speakers.  Something with silk dome tweeters would be my recommendation.
 

@kgtunes 

SF speakers are very nice and we auditioned those and the Focals at the same time. The SF were a bit warm for us it seemed the Focals had better detail. You can’t go wrong with SF tho. Happy listening ! 
 

Ron 

-Do these wall art panels need to be a certain thickness to be effective at sound absorbtion?

A sound panel does not really need to be thicker than 2". You only need really thick panels if you want to treat/absorb bass frequencies. I don’t think you will have bass node issues in your very large room and connected rooms.

It makes sense to put the speakers wider so that they are in front of the windows for the window treatments to absorb the sound. Will look into acoustic panels, larger rug and artwork on the side wall. The back wall is going to be an issue

There is a reason to put absorption right behind the speakers. When sound is generated by speakers, the sound waves will be reflected by the walls behind your listening position. Many reflections make their way back torwards the speaker and are actually reflected again by the wall "directly behind the speaker". This double-echo is what you want to avoid. That is the primary reason for recommending you move the speakers wider to be in front of the windows and use very heavy curtains as a sound absorber for mid and high frequencies.

Ultimately, that whole tile floor as well as the tile wall behind the tv is what is killing you. Drywall is pretty okay for acoustics, but you still want to catch first reflections.

Wall behind TV - I would look into maybe doing a heavy curtains here. One heavy curtain behind the tv to cover the tile - or possibly a diffusion panel to cover the tile. The diffusion panel could get expensive. Then heavy curtains for the windows. If you use curtains for both tile and windows, maybe think about floor-to-ceiling curtains so that the window/tile sections all look uniform (this is good for wife-acceptance-factor).

Left wall - you currently have this multi-colored painting. I would look into getting a couple of GIK Acoustics art deco panels. Maybe a couple of 24x24 panels. Or even a big 48x36 if you want. You don’t need a whole lot of treatment on this wall, but you do need some.  The panel should come down to the level of the couch.  Good hint - put a mirror on the left wall and move it around.  If there is a point where you can see the speakers from your listening position on the couch, you definitely need a panel there. See here:

https://www.gikacoustics.com/product-category/acoustic-art-panels/

Floors - put as many large thick area rugs as possible. You have a small rug in front of your couch and I also see a small rug under that coffee table. I think the tile floor right in front of the speaker should get thick rugs for sure.

Backyard windows - this is likely far away enough where it won’t affect acoustics too much, but you can put curtains on these windows as well if you still need a little bit more echo absorption. This will help.