Shindo amps vs. preamps


Hello-

I see more on the forums related to Shindo preamps than amplifiers. Are the preamps what makes Shindo systems very good, or does the Shindo amp make the magic?

Reason being, in my experience the tube amp has always made more magic than the preamp. I'm not sure if that is the case with Shindo. I can not use a Shindo preamp as I require remote, but have been looking into Shindo Montrachet and Haut Brion amps.

Thanks,

KeithR
keithr
It seems the magic of Shindo comes from an all Shindo system, which makes sense. In our listening circle we say it's all about the system. Way too much mix and match out there, IMHO.
KiethR -I'd suggest trying out both paths before you decide. It may push you to find creative ways around the remote issue...

I'd been trying for years to get that classic Shindo sound for as little $$ as possible. My first Shindo piece was the Aurieges paired it with a Mark Levinson No334 SS amp. I was impressed, but I still wasn't there. I thought the next obvious step was to upgrade the SS amp to a Shindo, but it was suggested I try out a Monbrison pre instead. I was simply blown away. I'm sure Mr Shindo puts magic in all of his components, but sure did pack a lot into the Monbrison...
I spent some time with Matt at Pitchperfect audio last weekend (San Francisco Shindo dealer). His recommendation is to get the best Shindo Preamp that you could afford and then whatever amp matches up best with your speakers.

I went in looking at the Monbrison and ended up ordering the Masseto. As has been said many times before, the preamps have a similar "house sound" but as you move up the ladder there just seems to be even more emotional connection with the music.

On the amp side I listened to Montille, Montrachet, Cortese and Lafon GM70. Each has its own distinct character. I preferred the two SET systems the best. I absolutely lust after the GM70.

I have a Masseto paired with the "lowly" Montille 6v6 amp, and it is a great amp, and fully up to being fed by the Masseto. Amazing transparencey, and musicality. My dealer said it well, all the Shindo amps are great, just get the one you like. I think the Montille is a real sweet spot in the line, as did Art Dudley in his review. I see there is a Montille EL84 amp for sale here now. Jump on that.