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Shunyata now uses silver ???...

I’ve been a long time fan of the Shunyata brand of cables. One of the rare real science audiophile cable makers, with relatively speaking reasonable prices also.

Shunyata has always turned away from silver. All these years of upgrading their lines...first came the helix virtual tube copper conductors, then the vtx conductors ( simpler virtual tubes) , then the revolution ary Ztron circuit eliminating skin lost of signal, then the even more revolutionary noise reduction circuits.

I’ve followed Caelin journey and numerous posts on forums. He always sweared they tried silver conductors and it never came as a solution to better sound compared to their premium copper. Never. And he also always sweared by their vtx air core surrounded by copper conductors.

And now what, their new line of reference power cables uses what.... SILVER conductors !??? And guess what, they decided to put them inside the virtual air core of the vtx conductors....which are not really vtx conductors anymore when you objectively  realise the truth.....because they filled the empty air core with a darn isolated silver wire !!...

I really think Shunyata have lost it this time... The logic in their science is no more.
My two cents.
A long time customer, now very perplex about their choices.
techno__dude
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geoffkait
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Former military scientist? I’m not sure I would have opened with that. Nevertheless...

“Shunyata Research was founded by former military scientist Caelin Gabriel in 1997 with the goal of designing power-line and cable systems that eliminate the deleterious effect noise has on high resolution sound, film, recording and mastering systems. Guided by Gabriel’s use of measurement, innovative science and his many patents, Shunyata has grown to become one of the most highly regarded manufacturers in the audio/video industry. This unparalleled success has grown to include a medical and science based product division named Clear Image Scientific. Shunyata’s sister company CIS designs and manufactures noise-reduction products for scientific laboratories, heart surgery and all applications that require the highest resolution of low-level signals and images.“
ebm
9,311 posts
 
What a bummer please don't cry.
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lalitk
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“The logic in their science is no more”

techno_dude, you know this how? May we please know your technical background? I don’t think ‘a long time customer’ hardly a qualification to form such a ridiculous opinion.

So why did you decided to ‘pick’ on Shunyata and not other manufacturers currently using Silver. Do you have a scientific proof to believe that Silver is not suitable conductor?

Your rant sounds more like a regret of not knowing Shunyata is coming out with silver cables. Did you recently upgraded your cables and now wished you could have waited?

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geoffkait
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Silver gets a bad rap. It must be broken in for a long time, it must be cryogenically treated. And it must be controlled for directionality. Any questions raise your hands. 
heaudio123
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Is the ridiculous opinion that the "logic in their science is no more", or that the logic in their science was never there, and they have just, inadvertently admitted it?
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