Speaker placement


Hello all, I do not have a dedicated listening room. My system must be in the living room with all the usual furniture. This keeps my speakers only about 18 inches off the wall, with a large heavy 30 inch tall media center in between them on top of which sits the electronics. I am not unhappy with the sound but I know that this is not the optimal set up. I have recently been reading about omni speakers such as from Ohm and Decware which are designed to be near the wall. Does anyone here have experience with them? My system is Prima Luna Dialogue Premium HP at 70 watts, Nordust Red Dawn into Tekton Lore speakers. Room is 15 x 23 with vaulted ceiling from 8 to about 20 feet with open walls to other rooms. And I play loud, turn volume to 2:00 or 3:00 sometimes. I listen to everything from rock to blues to jazz to easy listening to classical, but mostly love trying to feel like I'm at let's say sitting up front at Pearl Jam at Madison Square Garden. Thanks for reading and any thoughts.

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With 23 feet to play with, you’ve got to be able to find another 12-24".

Considering that John Atkinson found the Impact Monitor and Enzo to have lower sensitivity, I’d bet the Lore is not 98dB.

"My estimate of the Impact’s sensitivity was 87.5dB(B)/2.83V/m, considerably lower than the specified 94dB."

"The Enzo XL’s specified sensitivity is an extraordinary 96.5dB/W/m; my estimated value was 90.6dB(B)/2.83V/m."

I’m also considering going to monitors on stands with a beefy sub instead of omni directional towers.

If you want to play, you have to pay. Blown tweeters are the first sign of an amp driving into distortion. A big amp will be an eye opener for you. You’ll get the punch and power even at lower volumes. The large woofers will also push air like nothing a small speaker can do. You will not be happy with stand mount speakers.

maybe I over emphasized how often I play it at that volume.

I don't think you did.

Russ69 I know where you're coming from but maybe I over emphasized how often I play it at that volume. I spend lots of time at normal volume. And with 70 watts of tube power through 98 dbl sensitivity it gets pretty loud. I used to play a 100 watt Perreaux pure class A through Thiel 1.5s that I loved and got loud but the Thiels were too small for my room now and my wife blew both tweeters. I blew them once before so couldn't get too upset. So I replaced them with the Tektons. Still have the Thiels without tweeters in the basement. I'm also considering going to monitors on stands with a beefy sub instead of omni directional towers. Welcome thoughts on that too. 

but mostly love trying to feel like I'm at let's say sitting up front at Pearl Jam at Madison Square Garden. Thanks for reading and any thoughts.

Tekton Moabs, subs, and a pair of Parasound A21+. At your volume levels, finding the sweet spot is futile, your whole room will be overpowered. Tubes ain't going to get it done, you need some real beef. 

IMO, in a domestic environment, it is impossible to predict the outcome of different speakers, distances from the walls, spikes, sliders or anything else.  There are just too many acoustic variables.  In my room, the tiny Harbeth P3s produced a better bass response than the Monitor 30s, which are much larger.  I think you just need to experiment and see where it goes.  The slider idea was pretty good.  Move the speakers around.  May make a difference, may not.  Also, you might consider investing in a good headphone system.  I happen to hate headphones, but everyone's different. 

Not a bad idea for peanuts. Sliders. If you want to fix it there are a few ways to go.

Stand mount nearfield and set on a sub. That works!

Set up kitty corner.

Mobile acoustic panels and sliders for the speakers.

Move to a warehouse.

Regards

i put furniture sliding pads under my speakers so i can slide them forward and back away from the walls just get longer speaker cables. way better than any multi directional speaker i would think. bass is hard to tame near walls