Update From Ron New Day Record Covid 19 Battle

@jayctoy 

Vaccines are biological agents that elicit an immune response to a specific antigen derived from an infectious disease-causing pathogen. That's it. The agreed definition for nigh on 200 years. Other properties of any specific vaccine are irrelevant with respect to whether it's a vaccine or not.

The spike protein can cross into the bloodstream, although most appears to end up in the lymph system. There are Rat studies that show the vaccine produced S1 protein crosses the blood brain barrier, but follow-on studies In Vitro using cultured endothelial human cells showed it did not. So it may, it may not, we can't experiment on a bunch of humans to find out. There is significant data showing that SARS-CoV-2 can cause brain inflammation, and it's been hypothesized that the spike protein may be involved, but I have not seen definitive data on that. Not saying there's none out there.

The lipid 'bubble' encapsulating the mRNA is highly unstable - hence the onerous storage requirements - and once liberated, the mRNA is quite unstable as well. So spike protein not phagocytized by lmphocytes triggered by it, is unlikely to have much residence time in the body anyway.  My hunch - and it is not based on reviewed data - is that folks that would have a massive response to the vaccine (such as you and other seem to fear) would be those likeliest to die from a COVID infection. Making the vaccine an even better risk.

But no drug or vaccine is without some risk, and some side effects. It's a risk/benefit calculation. The selfish consider only themselve in that calc, people that aren't, consider their fellow citizens as well.

This post quoted above is erroneous if we think about this concept: " The dynamical sequences of mutating viruses evolutive pressure" between different human populations interactions in the course of a pandemic and the necessity to protect the old people and the young people with vaccinations or drugs, each corresponding to their specific immune status......

It is very important to maintain an unvaxx part of the population ,the very young, to act as a protective basin to control the UNILATERAL uprise domination by a swift mutating new kind of variant over the other main strain...

It is less simplistic you see than forced massive vaxx simplistic solution in simplistic preaching minds...

To learn more:

My reference are from Geert Vanden Bossche

https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/

He know a thing or 2 about that, if you dare to read his curriculum...And he is not paid by ANY corporations...

Then putting the load of culpabilitay on unvaxx people is plain IGNORANCE...It is political propaganda masquerading as science and wisefulness...

But no drug or vaccine is without some risk, and some side effects. It’s a risk/benefit calculation.

But This is right for sure..

But no drug or vaccine is without some risk, and some side effects. It’s a risk/benefit calculation.

@tweak1 

"If you think the virus is real and transmissible ...

Do your own research for: has ANY virus EVER been isolated so that a vaccine can be developed"

Not to disappoint, but I don't need to research. The answer is YES - three species of human poliovirus were isolated and used for production the Salk inactivated virus vaccine that eradicated Polio from the US, and almost eradicated it world wide.  Then of course, the Vaccina virus, same family (Orthopoxviruses) as the Variola virus that caused - past tense note - Smallpox. That vaccine eradicated Smallpox worldwide. I was part of the Acambis smallpox vaccine project for the US government after the 9/11 attack with subsequent smallpox scare.

Just to name the most obvious and high profile cases.  You do yourself no credibility favors when you pose such ludicrously obvious questions as though there's some apochyphal and malign informational trove known only to some awakened few.

As for the rest...well, can't say it more accurately than Nonoise did. BS, on a stick.

Negating the disease and the virus existence is really foolish and pure ignorance..

Another political rant of simplistic mind.....

between this and imposing in a silly move by force mass vaccinations, we dance on a tight rope between 2 complete fools crowds of sheeps..

i feel alone at the bottom of the world...

i guess i must phone the only dude at the peak of the world right now ... 😁😁😁😁😊😊😊😊

it is a joke i hate phone ... I own only the most primitive species of phone possible and without sophisticated computer screen in it to keep with me...

« The problem seating at the top is everyone listen to you and by habit you gradually  dont listen to anyone»-Anonymus Smith

@mahgister 

I assume you're referring to "Why do Covid-19 mass vaccination campaigns promote dominance of selective immune escape variants?"?

This is a *theory* propounded by some, rejected by most IME. He proposes a mechanism for selective pressure, without evidence of such adaptation taking place an a human population. This also presupposes that the "natural" immunological response would not be subject to the same selective pressures, which is unlikely to be true at all.  His theory is an absolute fact when dealing with therapeutic agents (such as antibiotics, and we have all seen) but that model does not hold if the "natural" response functionally indistinguishable from the vaccine mediated response. In fact, one and postulate that drastically increase number of passages of the virus itself, through and infected patient, and the amount of time that person is infective, would place greater selective pressures in that more of the viral types resistant to the immune response would be generated and released. Thus the assumed amplification may work the opposite of his theory.

The eradication of polio and smallpox due to massive vaccination programs provide data directly controverting his restistance amplification theory. I choose to rely on the empirical data.