Upgrading Fuses


Have a Audio Research Ref 3 and am considering upgrading the fuses but I am a little skeptical. Would like to hear from people who have try this. Hard to believe that fuses can make a substantial difference like the manufacturers claim. All advice appreciated.
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Well forty bucks isn't outrageous money to spend even if your gear isn't expensive.
The DecWare amp sells for about one thousand dollars, brand new and it's one of the best amps I've ever owned.
All 2 watts of this amp drives my Ref 3A Grand Veenas to very pleasurable levels in my smaller room.

It's the tone that matters to me, not the volume, or amount of bass impact,yet I notice no lack of bass with the Decware doing the amplification.

So,I wouldn't limit the use of a HiFi fuse to only high end gear.

Remember what Aczel said(before his myth busting days)that fuses degrade your sound.
I have years of experience with all manner and stripe of amplifiers to back this up.

Interesting what Mr.Aczel's take would be on a fuse that costs 40 bucks, but I'll wager it would be in the denier category.
Kind of ironic isn't it, but still keeping with his 180 degree turn in this hobby, and I'll wager he can pretty much lay claim to being the father of the whole denier cult so fashionable today.
And so sad.

To me if you are of the belief that everything is bunk and hype, then this must be a very uninteresting and boring hobby, unless your thrills are debunking things. If you feel there is nothing to be discovered, that nothing can improve upon stock or vintage, then to me ,what's the point of investing any money in anything in the hobby.
That's stagnation to me, and not any fun.

Also, remember that Mr.Aczel originally felt that things could be improved from stock.
Fuses were one thing that he felt had a sonic signature.

So why is it so hard to grasp the concept of one fuse being better than another?

Again we are talking 40 bucks, if the cost is the only reason to shy away from it, then again to me, this isn't the type of hobby for you to be in.

I personally don't think the cost of an upgraded fuse like the HiFi tuning supremmes that I now use is a ripp off.

If I did I would still be using my solid copper fuse replacements and be done with it, sans the protection that a fuse brings.
To me the peace of mind of knowing I also get protection besides better sound is the real plus.

I should add that yes the HiFi Supreme fuse did improve the already great sound of my Decware amp, as did the IsoCleans when they were used in AtmaSphere,Classe,and Cary amplifiers.

You can spend a lot more money and not get any results as pleasing as you do with a decent upgraded fuse.

It's safe, simple to install,improves the sound, and the amplifier is easily returned to stock condition, which is a real plus if you are into the vintage thing.There is no audio butchery involved and anyone can do it, no engineer's degree is needed.

To my ears the upgraded audio fuse from reputable manufacturers such as HiFi tuning,should be the very first thing an audiophile buys when he starts on the road to getting all the music from his system.

After this is done, most everything else will fall into place, and you'll notice how simple things that you once took for granted or paid no attention to, really do matter, and matter a lot more when you address them from the electrical panel to the panel speaker, or cone, your choice.

Speaking of panels, Magnepan speakers are prime candidates for upgraded fuses, and I know several owners who bypass the fuse altogether and get better sound.

Getting back to Peter Aczel,he is one piece of audio that I really do enjoy more in his old "vintage" personna.
Vhiner: As always, within your last two postings in particular, continue to perpetuate your simplistic reductionist interpretation of the entire factual picture.

10-08-11: Vhiner
"...you might actually discover that not all matters can be answered by measurements or double-blind tests (which have long been abandoned by audio designers as useless).

>>> Factual or not, equivalent/applicable testing methods are universally utilized throughout the WORLD's various scientific/engineering fields. You know, real-world meat and potato contributions to what you've become accustomed to in modern life. Not some niche, sales-driven, motivated market pandering to self-absorbed egotists. HiFi might be YOUR limited frontier of electronics, but I'm here to tell you there's a whole world out there that dwarfs this hobbies’ exploitation of early engineering achievements before "HiFi" was even trending.

10-08-11: Vhiner
"For others, I would, indeed, recommend you read Mr. Aczel's diatribe. It puts him squarely in the conspiracy theory camp occupied by people who have NOTHING to do with invention, innovation or the furthering of this great hobby."

>>> This "great hobby", as you refer to, has grown to perpetuate equipment $$$ales by whatever means necessary, including praying on human insecurities, doubt, and ego - just like all product sales! Your industry-supported magazine “reviewer gods” merely exists to perpetuate sales of their employer's magazines and sustain advertising revenue. And just what exactly are THEY directly contributing to "invention and innovation"?

10-08-11: Vhiner
"I lived in Germany for several years and I can tell you that neither the EU nor the very controlling and quality-contro crazy German government would allow HiFi Tuning to sell, let alone export something used in electronics that was either dangerous or not what it was claimed to be."

>>> Meeting safety regulations is one thing, and as long as they perform to said standards, meet regulatory obligation. Any "alluded" performance gain claims are most certainly marketable, even in Germany, as with any boutique power cables made in the EU, though probably mandate CE certification, unlike...

Vhiner:
"The document you have provided is evidence of this. Of course, there's no way to prove to skeptics that this document was not produced by a mad scientist employed by a religious cult. ;-)"

>>> Oh brother! If I had a nickel for every audio/non-audio manufacturer-generated embellished/bloated
"marketing comparison", which illuminated their product tiering over a "specific" or selected few competitors, I could better support my Starbucks' chemical dependency. They, like most audio reviews, should be considered with an open mind. I'm not saying the Tuning Fuse data is false or embellished, but I, like most engineering fundamentalist, would have a warmer fuzzy with independent testing having no motivational biasing - just like other testing agencies for all types of industry.
Congratulations, Metro04. After attempting unsuccessfully to assassinate a hard-working, reputable inventor's credibility, you now spit on the evidence you perpetually demand. You really are the exceptional intellect you portray yourself to be. Would it be too strenuous for you (before it's time for another nap) to go into depth about how the measurements provided here are so clearly bogus? I can hardly wait to be dazzled by your technical rebuttal to the measurements posted here on this thread. You are, after all, fully qualified to judge the results, are you not? It'd be nice to hear about those qualifications as well since you're the only one here claiming to be "technically" qualified. You are questioning the folks at HiFi Tuning. Wouldn't it be good idea to establish for everyone here what your extensive credentials are? Just to set the record straight, if it's not too much to bother.
All of my previous accusations stand corrected, regarding Vhiner's blatant twisted misinterpretations of my, and others, posted comments. It's become obvious, at this juncture, that it's his inept reading skills that are at fault. I defer you to the contents of my previous posting's last paragraph to contradict yet another of Vhiner's full cranial jelletization episodes. I trust that a second attempt to re-read its content will expose his repeating deficiencies. And, without a doubt, believes everything he reads as gospel regarding audio.

Again, if you can't keep up, take notes!
Metro04, funny you should bring up Starbucks. Just this morning my wife wife was telling me how she had gone into Starbucks a couple of days ago to buy her bean and favorite banana-nut muffin. The young man behind the counter absolutely refused to sell her the muffin because they had lost the card showing the muffin's calorie count. I don't known if you known this, but in NYC vendors such as Starbucks are now required by law to display the calorie count of their food offerings. How sad and pathetic that it has come to this.

If you don't understand the connection (mine, anyway) to the subject being discussed in this thread, then there really is no hope for you and Vhiner to understand each other. IMO, if you were to try and understand, I think you just might find that is more to the enjoyment of music than you may have thought was possible. In the meantime, the bickering is getting really old