Verdier and Amazon

Own the PLatine for some years now, together with the Wilson Benesch arm and a Grasshopper 3 groovin'.
This table is to understand with time, it has no character whatsoever, and to me it's short of magic.

As monsieur Verdier has said; you don't BUY my table, you get married with one.

I live happily ever after.

LINN LP 12? don't bother to compare, it's like riding a honda 350 four, and been overtaking by a Yamaha R-1...

Keep spinning the vinyl

Posts above are eloquent & specific -- Thomas & Kelly voice my opinion. However, if you fancy the exotic, think of the Gabriel TT: platter in the air, only connection b/ween LP & TT being the stylus. The belt connects to the motor which, in turn, is separate from chassis.

As per Tuboo, keep it spinning!

Well, LP12 is a simple enough product that can drop in a supercharged turbo, drives like a rocket, and corners like no tomorrow.

1) Supercharging: What it need is removing the steel chassis and replaced with carbon graphite parts (literally identical material used in Formula-1 race cars).

2) Improve the suspension: the springs can be modified with new suspension that stays true and tuned, more musical and better rhythm and timing.

3) Changed the "tires": Add extra layer of support, such as carbon platform, Mana, or Aurios. Of course, I do all of the aboves.

What LP12 is not, a big heavy table that suppresses the music, such as TNT, Verdier, Norttingham. And I dare anyone with this table to check mine out.

I am totally floored by playing a nicely set-up LP12/Ekos/Arkiv/Lingo/Carbon-charged/Mana/phono cable upgraded set-up. Took me about 5 hours to take it from stock to super-charged.

BTW, a fully-Linn setup with Arkiv and Linto is a match in heaven, and need to spend 2-3 times to get back the same quality of sound. It will compete right up there with top phono stages with a mid-range price: more cohesive than the ARC PH3 (not surprised), and more puunchy than Vendetta SCP-2B. The only downfall is Linto does not seem to like other cartridges from different brand. With Arkiv, I wouldn't miss the Helikon a bit.

www.extremephono.com

Well if you happen to like buying tons of upgrades, to get the thing going finally, be my guest.
It is no coincidence that the owner of Linn- (Ivor Tiefenbrunn) drives a Jaguar XJR tuned by Wilkinshaw !
This man does a very healthy business selling so many boxes.
I wouldn't want to buy a design which was so severely flawed in the first place.
Ofcourse the LP-12 is a very long time around turntable.
you can upgrade an old 68 Mustang for sure. does it make it a better car ? yep. so does the LP 12 no doubt about that.
The Verdier table was unaltered from the very first prototype for more than 20 years. it doesn't need upgrades.
Could you name one product which is basicly the same except for a little cosmetics ? that is very rare in our 'product of the month' society nowadays.

A big heavy table surpresses the music ?

Hmm some people come up with the strangest statements.

anyway, if youre happy with a 'bouncy bouncy' LP12 fine.
Keep it groovin'.

Yes, Tuboo,

right direction.
I listened to so many LP 12's and I wondered so much about their ( not existing ) "qualities".

It is a kind of "philosophy" with this stuff.

No wonder, when someone gives up and is going to buy a CD Player.
These always works with their first setting.

Linn products are great for dealers.

There is always something to sell.