I use S7i into a pre. My system is
Wadia S7i
ARC Ref 3
Lamm M1.1 Hybrid Monoblocks
Genesis G200
Using the pre is very worthwhile not least of all because it means running the Wadia at full 100% volume eg full 24bit. Of course it depends on the pre being used and the system itself. All I can say is that Wadia S7i plus pre works for me - very well indeed. The addition of S7i recently made as upgrade from 381i.
As a quick comment on the S7i - IT IS OUTSTANDING!
Jon |
Talk2me, What's the verdict on direct vs. pre?
Also, the power cord will have a substantial impact on your sound? What are you using? |
It is a variable question. Adding a pre, you are adding 3+ more variables(pre itself, interconnect, power cable and fuse). It is certainly more fun but it is going to cost you more. Would it sound better--> theoretically Yes but practically, it is going to depend on how u choose to put on your variables. Always remember this, never go lower level than your current status, otherwise it is like a sports car put a economy tires. Hopes that help. |
If you will, check out the Wadia S9 review by Rtn1, I offered a Pre-light version, by using an Audio Consulting silver rock TVC, which is usually in one position allowing Wadia's volume setting between 92-100, the silver rocks control only changed if the input's volume is highly different.
I dare you all to hear the difference between 100, 99, 98, 97, 96, 95, 94 settings!!
all the best, e |
Yes, Egidius... i am no way near having the best system. But setting the Wadia to all under 100 is heard. Going down to 96 you should hear it without doubt. 100 -Is more like a full on blast on dynamics and openness. Let me ask, don't you hear a sort of slight muting effect going less than 100?
To me, this is as obvious as changing algorithms, if not more.
My friends have sometimes problems hearing differences with small changes in a system, but lessening the level below 97, most hear.
If this wouldn't be the case, i would never look for a single source preamp, if, i would change and go for an all active speaker system. I don't fart money, that's for sure (Practice don't show any signs of progress, sad but true:-( |
It's all a question of relevance; I am a musician, so either in pleasure or in business I want to, or have to listen exactly, if so; I can always move the Passives volume control by hand using the W with 100%, at any other time when it is not essential I "do not hear" the difference, may that be because of casual listening, or because we are watching a film etc.
The actual important bit of my notion is that putting the Silver Rock TVC into the equation does not reduce quality, but increases practicality, it is my personal solution to those eternal discussions "Wadia direct or with pre"
all the best, E |
Rtn1- I prefer using my GNSC Statement Wadia S71 with my tubed Concert Fidelity preamp. It adds just enough of that "tube" quality I personally love (but not too much :)). I switched all my cables to Frost Audio BlackFrost. It is the single biggest improvement I have ever heard from non-electric gear. |
talk2me, thank you. i too am interested in the power cable used |
FWIW, I run my S7i directly and don't hear any negative effects on the soundstage until the volume goes below 70 or so; typical listening is done in the upper 70s/low 80s and Wadia's papers claim no degradation above 74. |
thank you Kucharsk. what power cable are you using? |
Alfa100- I use Frost Audio BlackFrost cables. Fantastic! |
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Just a heads up, which I cannot believe. Both Frost Audio and The Great Northern Sound Company have closed their doors right after I bought their products. Talk about picking some winners! At least I am stuck with outstanding products. |
I just purchased my S7i. I'm running direct into my monoblocs. I can't add much to this forum since it's not broken in yet,still waiting to connect unbalanced (XLO Sig 3. -any comments?)and no Pre-Amp sessions but.... Right out of the box this is a FABULOUS CDP !!! I've been an audiophile for over 30 years and this may be THE best piece of eqp. I have purchased to date. Will add more info. once I'm all set up. AGAIN...GREAT CDP Worth every penny!!! |
In my opinion all Wadia's sound best running direct to the amp using a balanced approach. Congrats on the new Wadia purchase. It's a fantastic company and products! |
Question regarding Wadia s7i Direct to amp connection -
Has anyone that was operating in the "Correct" output range 75-100 boosted the output? Depending on the level the cd was recorded at there are times when I wish I could go to 112 or so. Also...if you did increase the output to compensate for the lower cd levels what did it do to the higher level cd's- Did the lower end (Bass) increase because of the higher output voltage or was it that what used to be played at say 100 sounds the same as 88 after the increase.
BTW...Now that my s7i is fully broken in it's even more incredible!!! Love it!! - (using XLO sig3 bal to Bryston 7BST mono's.) |
