+1 nonoise, I was just going to say that it seems that people are arguing just for arguing sake. The other comment I have here is that I notice that geoffkait really just pours gasoline on to fire. I know he has said in the past that he is just trying to diffuse arguments with comedy, but I think this is really only an excuse to post very insulting comments. I know that there is a tendancy to love his posts because he is on your side, but it is very much creating a mob mentality. Keep that in mind as you read.