What is the best Reel To Reel machine ever built?


Everyone who has listened to master tapes or dubs knows about the well balanced sound they provide. But it is also important to have a fine tape recorder or playing machine to enjoy the tapes' qualities in a good system.
Maybe my question was raised once before but the relevance of the topic is now greater as the tapes are back to more and more audiophile friends, especially those who are owning excellent phono chains.

I have seen many big & professional machines being recently offered and sold on e-bay, Audiogon and other platforms and I am discussing within a small group which machine is really the "holy grail" among the R2Rs. So why not here. I am interested in findings.
thuchan

Acknowledged and agreed, Ralph!
That's why I'm looking for a Nagra IV-S ;-)

Very best regards,
Sam
Neumanns, especially the tube-mikes are great for recording. I also have good experiences with the Studer mixers, if they are checked and in a good condition.
Recording on Tapes is wonderful, even at home!

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The week after next week my new machine will be finished. I had to build a special stand etc. I will then definitely post an image here. Maybe someone has seen that kind of unit somewhere before...

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Eckart,
Neumanns, especially the tube-mikes are great for recording. I also have good experiences with the Studer mixers, if they are checked and in a good condition.
Recording on Tapes is wonderful, even at home!

Very cool...I want to do this, too :-)
Which Studer mixer are you using and how is it configured?

Thanks,
Sam
Sam,

I am using the Studer A779 which is the smallest Pro-Unit they had.
you may use three unit inputs (tapes or turntables / or mikes).
If you need more info on that the image I will post in one week will also contain the Mixing Solution.

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Thanks, Eckart!

I'll send you some images of the Esoteric P-0s manual...it's in Japanese :-)

-Sam
In my opinion it would be the ones that Professor Keith Johnson uses at Reference Recordings.
Joe Nies
Joenies,

Do you mean the big Nagra, the one Bottlehead is using too?

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some impression from RMAF 2011:

Tape Decks
This was more than a bit surprising. I've always known that a good deck crushes the sound of vinyl providing you have source tapes that are fairly close to the masters. I was amazed to see so many top shelf decks in so many rooms at the show. Best part was, everybody was using them. I saw everything from studio decks to a little portable Stellavox 3 1/2" deck that will blow your mind. Good sounding open reel decks aren't exactly inexpensive, neither are the source tapes, but boy does it sound good. One of these days I'll get back into this. Like vinyl, I've kept all of my open reel tapes.
I have several Scully's. Great sounding deck, Usermanual. Good enough that Hendrix used them at Electric Ladyland. :)
My new machine has arrived today, hopefully you regard it as appropriate. I was happy that it matched the car's space - but no more milimeters left. I needed help to bring it into my room and it got dark very early at my place So tomorrow I will shoot a picture and post it here.

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Some really choice gear, above :-)
Eckart, do you have some 1/2", half-track analog reels??
Looking forward to the pictures!

Vbr,
Sam
Sam, here it is, hope you like my choice:

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/-6ZG7zbaj-VDbPnGDmMPmn3JU4W64WoH6aKPcEXA3ds?feat=directlink


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Hi Brad,

I didn't know you repped GML...I'll have to give you a call within the next few months :-)

Regards,
Sam
Wonderful old post and yet not one of you mentioned Telefuken! They made incredible studio machines, with excellent build quality that ran at 30ips.  

N.
Mark Levinison’s John Curl Modified Studer
30 inches per sec speed
2 inch, two track tape
Huge stand!

Will never be beat!
Heard it play back 2nd generation Levinson Jazz tapes.
No better sound IMO!
I remember levinson building maybe modifying is more accurate a half track 1/4 inch tape deck back in late 79 or 80, but can't remember what is was based on. I remember trying to find one to listen too.  No one had one.
Can't for the life of me remember what it was based on? ReVox or maybe TEAC? I have the brochure somewhere. 
My Teac A 6300 (I thought) was the best sounding R2R I'd heard until I got my Tandberg TD20 SE - by far the best sounding reel to reel I've ever had or heard over Tascam, Teac, Sony, Revox, Realistic, Akai I think I've had them all at some point, at least in the Mid-Fi non professional class however running it through my Krell KRC-3 Preamp, Krell KSA 250 into the Thiel CS5i's has a lot to do with it but as a source the Tandberg is up there with my Meridian CD player and Linn / Dynavector and one of the best sources in it's own way - maybe a better question is what is the best sounding reel to reel you've heard and list your associated equipment used with the unit?
Atmasphere, since you have some very good R2R's have you ever tried to contact a major orchestra like say the Cleveland Orchestra, one of the worlds greatest to capture them on tape?  I am sure the records would sell as audiophiles know who the Cleveland Orchestra is all over the world.
wow, that would do the job, thats for sure.  If I could only come up with 30K, I could start my own business.lol
Albert Porter has the hots for a Studer 820. Another associate uses vintage Ampex decks.

Probably the best open reel deck ever built was custom made by an American, forgot his name. One unit only, I think. Pink Floyd's Gilmore said that compared to that machine any stock Studer sounded like a cassette deck.
But, I guess 2" Studer 820 should be exceedingly good to say the least. 
Atmasphere, since you have some very good R2R's have you ever tried to contact a major orchestra like say the Cleveland Orchestra, one of the worlds greatest to capture them on tape?  I am sure the records would sell as audiophiles know who the Cleveland Orchestra is all over the world.
They have a contract :)
Studer made the best solid state stuff IME.
ALRIGHT! What mics, pres, and mixer are you using for your location gigs?

Best regards,
Sam

Sam,

NP, I use a pair of 414xls or C-12s direct into a pair of 737 preamps.if digital then into rosetta 200, if analog straight into analog inputs on tape deck
johnss
I have heard Studer C37, heard Studer 820, never heard Ampex or ATR. 
It was on different occasions , with different gear so it is hard to compare.
But by far the biggest impression made on me UHA-Tascam phase 11. No other R2R have even come close to this shattering bass, dynamics, color micro-details. Curious if anybody had a chance to compare Ampex, ATR, STuder to UHA-Tascam on the some gear. I'm talking about honest R2R shootout.
with 30-50 year old RTR decks there is such a wide variance of condition it is very challenging to be able to compare and draw any conclusive conclusions. and further you need to separate transport and tape handling performance from heads and output electronics. heads and output electronics can and typically these days are upgraded or modified to better the original limitations.

the UHA-Tascam has the output electronics and head part very up to date and refined. yet while it’s transport is good, and certainly optimized, it’s ultimately limited by it’s heritage from ultimate master recorder level transport. it can’t do 1/2" or 30ips.

i believe that the UHA-Tascam is the best plug and play current choice for tape decks. however; any shootout would be likely won by a master recorder like the A-820 or ATR-102 fully optimized by the right heads and output electronics. transport performance would push it farther. and if you go 1/2" then it would not be close.

i’ve heard a hot rodded ATR-102 with optimized heads and ATR Services Aria output electronics on 1/2" that was fantastic. don’t think that the UHA-Tascam gets into that league. but when you consider the value of that particular ATR deck likely exceeds $40k the UHA looks like a bargain even at top spec.