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@mahgister, I am not disagreeing with your statements. Based on the current political situation I would estimate that at least 50% of the population is highly suggestible. But, on what basis are you making these statements, as a matter of experience and opinion or do you have a degree in sociology or psychology?

My post was an answer to a friend here :

Apparently experiments from the first part of the last century have shown that some 20% of the population are highly suggestible.

This is an underestimation...

Most human more than half, are very suggestible, it is a characteristic of human being..Socialization of the entity in the herd ask for that...(for sure my estimation is anecdotal)

Then this is"anecdotal"....In reality ALL humans are suggestible at children age, and  some only "waited" a variable amount of time to be programmed completely or to partially chose their program (scientism,religions, sects, political parties)Humans CANNOT live without answers that are most of the time not the truth at best and half truth at worst... 😁 Truth ask for a work about OURSELF....Not only about  nature or about number theory....

Truth is like freedom, nobody wanted it, save few great human spirits...It is a too heavy load on the back of each of us....

But, on what basis are you making these statements, as a matter of experience and opinion or do you have a degree in sociology or psychology?

Like in audio i did not have any competence at all in anything... My life job was counselling of students of all fields about reading in philosophy, linguistics, science, mathematics,poetry, psychology, even astrology and other studies😁...

The only think i learned to was chosing my books......These books were so interesting that it was not necessary to like reading to read them.... I was very good to move people to read books they dont like... For example i instructed mathematicians to read some specific poet for their specific character , and to poets to read about natural phenomena or number theory....😊I was very good to seeds enthusiasm and to make synthesis....

But i am totally incompetent....Like i am incompetent in audio, but i can learn by myself ....

All i say, all i can say, is my opinion....

Social Darwinism is a travesty, the evolution of a species is not.

Evolution is the central feature of biology for the last 2 centuries....But Evolution is not reducible to Darwin concepts, and is a way more complex concept than imagined by most....Proponent of intelligent design for example has mark some good points....

This article is an introduction to the Goethean concepts....They are clear but very, very deep....Dont be fooled by the simplicity of the description at first sight....One of the best books about Goethe vision in English had be written by a physicist who studied and worked with David Bohm, Henry Bortoft....

https://www.natureinstitute.org/article/craig-holdrege/goethe-and-the-evolution-of-science

Goethe is not understood easily..... He was the " holder of the largest private collection of minerals of his time in Europe—with almost 18,000 specimens" and many thousands plants specimens.....Dont think a minute that Goethe was a lazy poet....

It is very easy to miss his ideas even today ....They are too deep to be understood on the spot....Bortoft explain very well why and how... It take him 20 years to do so.... Then dont execute Goethe ideas with "scientism" in few minutes....It is like for audio phenomena , there is more than meet the eyes of anyone....
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My best to you.....

@clearthink, Why so defensive? I take no sides. I simply make the observance that there are two groups diametrically opposed. One of the two groups is drinking the Kool-Aid. I leave it up to you to decide which group that is. Our government has been hopelessly corrupt for quite a while. The fact that there are no term limits in congress and no meaningful campaign finance reforms bears witness to this. If I were not so old and entrenched I would move to Canada. At least I would know what I was getting.

@mahgister, I think you have stumbled onto an interesting problem with us humans. When we do not know what is going on we make stuff up. We mythologize. This may have been going on long before H. sapiens cropped up about 200,000 years ago. Zeus was a creative explanation for lightning. There have been millions of myths throughout our time on this planet all firmly taken as gospel in their day. Many had a very difficult death, like the earth is flat. New myths pop up on a daily basis if you care to watch the news.

@mahgister, I think you have stumbled onto an interesting problem with us humans. When we do not know what is going on we make stuff up. We mythologize. This may have been going on long before H. sapiens cropped up about 200,000 years ago. Zeus was a creative explanation for lightning. There have been millions of myths throughout our time on this planet all firmly taken as gospel in their day. Many had a very difficult death, like the earth is flat. New myths pop up on a daily basis if you care to watch the news.

Thanks for you reply....

But reducing myths to only fancy is also a deception about ourself....

Myths are a fundamental expression of the creative imagination, and in this sense they are not "fictions" in the modern acceptation of the word...Imagination has 2 side: passive imagination this is illusion, dreaming, and going out of the reality...But creative and formative imagination is on the opposite side an access to reality and in this sense it is real...

Cassirer give the example of a curved line, that is a work of art for the artist, a mathematical conic section or the number line for a geometer, or the appearence of a beautiful feminine body for the lover, or an exact metaphor of the absolute infinite for a mystic, or a direct sign of the divine in the sky or in the sand or the confusion between a serpent and and cable in the dark room of imagination for many of us.... The curve is all that at the same times and way MORE.... Without imagination there is NO perception of reality....

And sometimes what we called myth, the oral transmission through millenia, convey and refer to real fact and phenomenon, interpreted in the past, but not reducible to "fiction" only....

Reality is not an outer "fact" or a set of facts.... This is one of the greatest illusion of modern man... Modern science and modern psychology enlightened us about that....



« What seems to exist, but does not exist by itself, is the real staircase that brings us to truth»-Anonymus Smith

«Do you also walk on water?»-Groucho Marx

mijostyn@clearthink, Why so defensive? I take no sides. I simply make the observance that there are two groups diametrically opposed"


I am not defensive I asked a question which you are unable, unwilling, or incapable of responding to or towards and you have taken a side in this matter of your creation very much! You have said half of your country is suggestible and drank the koolaid you don't need to identify your side to reveal your reasoning that those who disagree with you are suggestible and drank the koolaid it is so obvious.

mijostyn OP3,670 posts02-10-2021 7:25am@mahgister, I am not disagreeing with your statements. Based on the current political situation I would estimate that at least 50% of the population is highly suggestible.

About 60% on one side of the spectrum, 40% on the other, I will leave it up to individuals to decide which side is which.