Which Component Needs to be Upgraded First

Tvad, I have been reading the site info as well as posts on this unit and I am going to buy one for my house.

Two questions

Has it improved your sound in any way?

Seems this unit will clean ac and surge protect everything electronic in the home. My bedroom TV etc...........

Bill

I have used several BPT power conditioners on my digital front end only with good results. Deeper bass, took out some of what we call digital glare or hardness, smooth highs and improved stage size.

I now use a battery powered CD player so I sold my BPT.

Hey guys,my question is sort of on topic.Anyone had any experience with isolation transformers and their application at the source (CD/DAC)Comments,opinions?

They are heavy on the bass as your amp is slow and not controling the woofers in your speaker. A Belles Ref 150 amp will take care of that while the Monarchy amps not as much. The SE160's will control the bass far better then your ST140 however.

I did find a little midrange suckout in the Khorus speaker that the Monarchy amp match well with as the amps have a rich and wonderful midrange.

What is more important to you - better bass control or more midrange presence and treble smoothness. The Belles is also smooth on top and more transparent than the Monarchy. I just think the Monarchy amps have a wonderful tube amp sound without the hassle of numerous large output tubes.

Both amps are great, but your sonic goals are most important.

Grannyring, you are so right. Ironically, I put a Zhaolu DAC behind the Sony CDP. I learned about it from Head-Fi.org, another favorite site of mine. Wow, that is so cool that you also owned the B&K ST-140 and the Talon Khorous X speakers. Mike Farnsworth of Talon Audio took care of me and re-did the cross-over network on the speakers. I was sorry to hear that he had trouble with his business and sold. I will follow the broads for the Monarchy amps. What makes them so special when mated with the Talon's? I find the Talons to be heavy on bass and mid-bass. You didn't find that to be the case? I thank you for your insight.

Most interesting. I will check this out. Never seen this before?

I have found conditioners to degrade sound and limit current/dynamics. I would have to say spend that money on direct 20 amp lines to your room before a line conditioner.
Also get a decent power cord.

I know many differ on opinions of power conditioners, so this is just my experience.

I think it gos a little beyond a simple cable upgrade,a decent conditioner can do much more for a system than a next up cd player or amp.Having that right youll hear just how good that gear is or isnt.I used to say that it was money that could be used better.The building blocks to start with got to be there.Thats my veiw like everybody elses two cents.goodluck

I owned the ST140 some 15 -20 years ago. I owned the Khorus speakers about 5 years ago. You need a better amp - pure and simple. Updating your source to a better dac would also be a must.

No mention of how much money you have? You can get an awesome DAC today very little money. I think you can do both instead of paying what you might be considering for one.

Get an Oritek Audio modified Zhaolu D2.5 dac for $599 new. It is an absolute giant killer. You can use your Sony for a transport. This DAC is amazing and outperforms dacs cost up to 10X more! You can also sell the Sony and use an Oppo for a transport.

For the amp I would stick with a nice SS or Hybrid amp to control the bass on those X speakers. I own an ART Audio SLA2 that costs only $285 new and it will smoke the once wonderful ST140. This is 200 watts per channel. I can share more if you are interested.

Your speakers can use more midrange and the Monarchy SE160 mono amps would be great for some $1200 or so used. A used Belles Ref 150 ($1400) is also a great amp with better high and bass then the Monarchy. The Monarchy wins out out for mids and wonderful warmth.

Bill

In the bigger scheme of things cables make marginal improvements.Place a high priority on the source.

I must admit that I am not a firm believer that significant differences can be achieved via the "right" cables, power cords, and power supplies. It seems like most folks responding to this post suggest upgrading source and amp first. I have taken the first step, and added a DAC right behind the Sony SACD 333ES player. My impression is that that the music improved in clarity and crispness, particularly in bass and mid range representation. I will look around on the Audiogon boards for a good amp deal. Thanks to all for taking the time to help me.

I reccomend you get power straight first,cond,cables,ect.Every other thing after that.imho.

Nice speakers. I owned the B&K st-140, you could do much better.

IMHO, and at the risk of telling you something you already know, once you've reached your level of components, and especially since your're not considering a speaker upgrade (and I'm not suggesting that you should consider it), the only way to tell is to demo a piece--source, amp, or otherwise--in your home w/ your equipment. Beware of assuming that a newer, more expensive component will give you an upgrade in sound.

The amp and cd are the weaker links. That being said I would use Gunting's advice and get a good Dac and replace your player as needed.
The rest of your components can't make up for a poor source.
GBI,GBO just like a computer

How about just purchasing a benchmark DAC and using the Sony CD player as a transport?

I thought you were going to say the B&K was a good entry level amp in its day, and that it was my weakest link. Do you feel that there would be noticeable improvement in sound with a newer moderately priced CD (source)upgrade? If so, is there a good bang for the buck model you recommend?

I would recommend that you upgrade the source first, the Sony 333es.

Cheers,
John