Why should audiophile deniers be allowed on an audiophile forum?


Why should we be subjected to audiophile deniers, on a site dedicated to audio?
It’s antithetical to the hobby and adds nothing to the pursuit. I want to quote something from another thread.

@djones51 wrote "exposing bull products like "audiophile switches, cables, fuses " and other highly questionable devices that serve no purpose"

What then, is the purpose of people with this agenda being on this site? To “expose bull products.” It’s fine for someone to post they tried a product and it didn’t work for them, but to dismiss entire product categories is not a discussion that belongs on an enthusiast forum.

Would a car enthusiast site stand for this type of post?

Try going on a Porsche forum, just for example, and posting that your Mustang is just as fast 0-60 and that others poster’s claims about their driving experience is “dubious.” See how long that will be tolerated

There are plenty of sites to poke fun at audiophile’s obsession with cables, power conditioners etc. Why does it belong here, especially when we can’t mute specific posters?

What’s next? Arguing that speakers that measure the same must sound the same and that we are all suckers for buying expensive speakers? I thought we got rid of trolling?

Isn’t it obvious with all the ASR related posts here lately we are being trolled?

A couple of months back I read a post here about someone that ordered a new cat8 cable from China. I tried it and posted back my fantastic results for others to benefit.

Personally that’s the kind of forum I’m interested in, not to come here to be challenged about what I hear and that since it can’t be measured so it must be “dubious.”

 

 

 

 

 

emailists

@hilde45 

But if I turn of Faux "news" wouldn't that be a form of "censorship"?  And besides, then I would miss Squeaky (aka Tucker) Carlson! 

Post removed 

@jerryg123 

Good point.

We can all learn the lessons from the blatantly biased way the Twitter platform was run.

And does matter? 

$30 billion+ says that it does.

 

@mrskeptic 

The 0-60 of a Mustang can be objectively tested. Almost all things claimed to improve a stereo's sound are done via "because I hear a difference and I know what I hear."

Until audiophiles allow or at least accept blind testing, they'll likely never be taken very seriously. Especially when some believe stuff like these things (literally magic crystals) make a difference in a system. https://walkeraudio.com/?product=black-diamond-room-treatment-crystals

 

Agreed.

Audiophiles are already out on somewhat of a limb already but if we were to restrict debate and criticism we may just find ourselves hopelessly detached from the rest of humanity. 


No doubt, some might even prefer it that way. Especially when they have a vested financial interest in promoting certain products.

However, the rest of us understand that this is a forum to discuss matters musical, and not a mere vehicle for untrammelled free advertising.

In any case, isn't it always better to allow the dear reader to take in the various arguments and ultimately make up their own mind?

It's all too easy to get sucked in by someone else's apparent enthusiasm, even if it seems to change month after month. In fact, this was the main lesson I learned after decades of reading hi-fi reviews.

Blind listening tests and comparison against long term reference products should be mandatory if reviews are to be anything other than mere flavour of the month opinions.

I understand that times are tough and it's important to support the audio industry. I love audio, and I want to see it thrive. Surely anyone who seeks to have access to higher performance playback equipment deserves the best chance to access it, don't they?

If so, then forums like this one can certainly do their part, but let's not kid ourselves that get rich quick fly-by-night scammers don't exist.

I dont know why i like you Helmholtzsoul...You remind me of someone ....

😁😉😊😊😊😊

 

You can have your own opinions but you/we should never be allowed to cross the line of civilized discourse and take the 'I disagree with you as my experience was different' position into an attack on the intelligence of the poster disagreed with. That distinction is why many internet comments sections are gone now.