Zu Soul Superfly


I just ordered a pair of the new Zu speakers on a whim. I was going to wait for information, but the fact that they threw in the free superfly upgrades to the first 30 people got me.

From a similar thread it sounds like some of you guys have heard the speaker despite information only being released today. I'm wondering what you can share about it?

Also, I am really hoping it works with a Firstwatt F1 amplifier. Can anyone comment as to that? I know the Druid's and Essences worked OK.
gopher
I have followed this thread with interest . . . as the owner of a pair of Zu Definition 2s that I also consider a “big tent” speaker, albeit an expensive one.

I agree with Phil, there are many music lovers more than willing to spend 2-3k on a pair of musically satisfying speakers; I know that I am. I am talking about people who want good, involving music when they cook, eat, work, read, relax, play, walk about the house, visit with friends, etc. People who are willing to make real-world compromises to incorporate music into the rest of their lives, for whom aesthetics are important, and who need speakers that are modest in size and that can be placed where they integrate into their environment. Not people for whom the only acceptable audio experience is sitting in the middle of the sweet spot in a dead-quiet, isolated space, totally focused on the sound. And, no, mass-market hi-fi is not an adequate solution. It seems that Soul Superfly may fit this bill nicely . . . and at a reasonable price. (If Superfly had been available 3.5 years ago, I probably would have tried them first . . . and maybe last.)

I have found Zu’s direct market approach to be totally consumer-friendly. Whoever answers the phone at Zu is polite and helpful and knowledgeable and if unable to answer my question, quickly finds someone who can. When Ron Williams was in my neighborhood, he spent an hour tweaking my speakers' placement. And, yes, it did make a difference. This is the opposite experience that I have had at most B&M audio stores. However, while Zu stands by their 60 day home trial – something no B&M store has ever offered – packing and unpacking and shipping speakers of this size is not a cakewalk. What I do not understand is how Zu expects to reach the music lover with its current, direct-market approach. How can a music-loving consumer discover Zu when most audio stores have barely heard of them? The internet levels the playing field for small companies, but the consumer must still search . . . and sometimes search diligently.

I have also learned what Phil means when he says that Zu speakers shift the focus of the sound to the amplifier. Every amplifier that I have tried sounds very different on the Definitions. Not better or worst, but always different. (I should thank Phil for the time that he spent answering my questions and those of others on Audiogon and similar forums.) Like the Zu speakers, my current electronics have been chosen for their visual appeal and craftsmanship (works of art, really) and ease of integration into my environment . . . not just for their rich sound.

Gary
Putting basic room treatments is certainly better than the audiophile who has 10k+ in cables, vibration pods, racks, stones, rca caps, cd demag machines, power conditioning boxes, power cords, voltage machines, etc. unfortunately i know too many of these folks. and the basic laws of physics govern room acoustics, unlike the rather subjective laws around other audiophile obsessions. but we can agree to disagree.

and with current technology, the stuff can actually look good (which 10 years ago it didn't). check out Art Panels by several manufacturers, for instance. having a zillion tube traps isn't good looking---but custom bass traps are pretty invisible in any room. and a custom bass trap costs less than an interconnect these days!

and sure Avery Fischer Hall doesn't sound great---but Disney Hall and the Meyerson do sound pretty good imo.

Speaker, amp, room. keep it simple and it works. the Soul buyer isn't going to change there room, just like any other inexpensive speaker buyer. so at least get the amp right.

cheers,

KeithR
Nag, Im not sure what the upgrade will cost you, but have you considered selling your druids to fund souls? It may prove to be A larger, more cost effective upgrade.

Zanon, how big a difference was wood vs carpet? I have spikes coming from Zu, hopefully tomorrow but am wondering if I should just place it on some 13x13 mdf with the hard floor footers.
>>I have spikes coming from Zu, hopefully tomorrow but am wondering if I should just place it on some 13x13 mdf with the hard floor footers.<<

I don't recommend this. It's better to have the speaker on an MDF or other material tile on carpet via the hard floor nubs than setting them on carpet directly without spikes, but spikes planted firmly into/through the carpet will give you and audibly more planted, firmed sound. Now if the MDF tile has spikes driven into the carpet and then the Soul on nubs is on the tile, that loosely emulates the Essence' double plinth. But why complicate things when spikes in the Soul cabinet will solve the problem in the simplest way. A 13"x13" tile lying on carpet still allows movement by the speaker sitting on it.

If you do take the tile-on-carpet option, forget nasty MDF and do it with maple.

A friend of mine partial to carpet once solved this problem in an interesting and effective way. He had his carpet cut out for his speaker footprints, inlaid parquet on the exposed floor, and put his speakers on firm footing directly on wood. Sonically, better than carpet spikes or a tile-on-carpet.

Phil
Thanks for the pointers, Phil. Can't wait to try the spikes. I realize this is NOT optimal but have been enjoying the hell out of it/listening to a ton of music just the same.

I'm also glad I put some more effort into placement, particularly making my listening room more of an equilateral triangle and using a sight to aim the tweeters a couple feet behind my head position. It is making me question whether I need to change amplification or if I'd be better served just rolling tubes in my preamp.

I am still very curious about that SLA battery powered alleged clone amp, but not sheerly as an upgrade. I want something that uses less electricity or at least is more efficient than the First Watt for summer time listening. The F1 is a friggin' sauna in the corner of my den which actually puts off enough heat to raise the temperature have the AC constantly kicking on (hate background noise) when I'm listening. Also, I'd love to just leave it on 24/7.

We shall see what happens, funds are unexpectedly tight at the moment so I'd have to sell off something to rationalize it.