Upgrading Fuses


Have a Audio Research Ref 3 and am considering upgrading the fuses but I am a little skeptical. Would like to hear from people who have try this. Hard to believe that fuses can make a substantial difference like the manufacturers claim. All advice appreciated.
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09-28-11: Vhiner
“I''ve never claimed to be a genius, but I know when i'm in the presence of one, metro04. Even if I'm far beneath your level, i hope you won't abandon us and stop despensing advice! So here goes: I'm in a bit of a panic. I can't find any independent, vetted research studies to support Conrad-Johnson's claim that the teflon capacitors they use affect the sound in their equipment. Per Your guidelines Meteo04, this must mean I've been ripped off. I was hoping you could post the academic studies you used for buying all of your equipment. This would help all of us make much better purchasing choices.”

>>>Vhiner, I realize that you had to wear a special helmet during childhood, but continuing to wear it is restricting essential blood flow to your gray matter. It’s becoming quite evident that you have a fetish for seeing and re-reading your own delusional material in print. I can’t imagine how popular you must be on facebook or twitter.

Anyways, regarding your panic attack; I would bet you a handsome wad of your Monopoly money that highly respected Conrad-Johnson has measurements to support their design, engineering, and testing result … just like Pass, Krell, Levinson, etc, etc, and is something anyone with capable test equipment could verify. That pretty much goes for any equipment with quoted/written specifications. With that said, just where is all that data for aftermarket tweaks, cables, and pseudo-science products?! Well? Yeah, exactly!!! Next!

09-28-11: Vhiner
“The Gospel according to Metro04:The Gospel according to Metro04:”

“It's very important that, from this point on, everyone should follow Mr. Metro's rules and regulations. If you fail to do so, you are clearly either superstitious, mentally challenged, deluded or part of a a criminal fraud. Whatever experience you have is inadmissible unless accompanied by certified letters from academic editorial boards because scientific journals never err.”

>>>Uhhh, excuse me Mr. alcohol-syndrome baby, but your idiotic babblings are not my rules and regulations, but established practices around the world in every sector of which I’ve already stated examples! If you can’t keep up, take notes!!! And where exactly in my postings do I allude to: “you are clearly either superstitious, mentally challenged, deluded or part of a criminal fraud.”?

>>>Yeah, thought not, though you do seem to have a Politian’s knack for stretching, embellishing, and sensationalizing facts!

“Mr. Metro has further established, once and for all, that any reviews or opinions expressed by the representatives of Stereophile, Paul McGowan, Positive Feedback, Stereo Times and many more publications easily accessible on line regarding high end fuses all reflect the thoughts of people who are either in the pockets of advertisers, deluded, con artists, or mentally challenged.”

>>> And again with stretching, embellishing, and sensationalizing facts! The conversation went as follows below: Note my exact wording of questions asked, and it is WELL understood that many equipment reviews are positively biased if magazines and reviewer wish to continue advertising for companies they review for. Either Vhiner is ignorant to this fact, or refuses to acknowledge the reality. I have yet to locate a fuse review with measureable results I enquired about. If you can post a link here, I’d be happy to read it!

09-22-11: Vhiner
“P.S. In addition to being an award-winning editor and journalist, Robert Harley is a respected engineer who has addressed this tired,old debate countless times. John Atkinson provides countless measurements of audiophile products."

09-22-11: Metro04
Which month's magazine article did RH or JA address this fuse issue will measureable results? These are payed magazine reviewers, correct?”
Metro04,

That was brilliant. It is hard to keep up.

Now, back to my main question: could you please post the academic studies you consult before you buy your equipment. I'm eager for the bedtime reading.

I'm a bit surprised that you're willing to bet money on an unsubstantiated opinion that Conrad-Johnson has measurements to support all of its design decisions. Please post the supporting document! Or have you altered your precepts? I'm sorry I have such a hard time keeping up. Is it now that only other people have to provide studies or documents when presenting their suppositions? Have you posted any studies yet? I can hardly wait.
Ghosthouse - Milpai

Fuses.
Not, wonders of nature, magic and mysticism, limits of the universe stuff.
Just lumps of metal that you pass current through & that have a limited number of properties that are easy to measure & quantify and understand.

No rocket surgery involved here.
Metro04'

"Payed" (sic) magazine reviewers like Robert Harley and John Atkinson have written extensively about how measurement methods are routinely being developed that enable us to explain things that people hear which could not have been measured or explained in the past.

The best example pertains to digital audio. In the early days engineers were outraged by people who claimed that all digital playback devices were not the same. Some engineers pointed to their spes and said that CD's provided "perfect sound", Zeros and ones are zeros and ones, they argued. The measurements show that what goes in is exactly what goes out.

Then jitter measurements were developed and, lo and behold, it was discovered that the lowly listeners had been right all along. Digits are not just digits and all cd players are not equal in terms of sound reproduction quality.

People like Harley and Atkinson contend that it is not measurements that are the problem; it is people who worship those measurements.

But of course these two gentlemen are not geniuses like Metro04.
Don't you have any other friends to play with? Try your best to comprehend what I'm writing this time. That way you can hopefully do a better job with accuracy in your interpretations of my postings.

09-28-11: Vhiner
"I'm a bit surprised that you're willing to bet money on an unsubstantiated opinion that Conrad-Johnson has measurements to support all of its design decisions. Please post the supporting document!"

>>> What "unsubstantiated opinion"?!! CJ, like *just* about all major audio equipment manufacturers, employ engineers that design and thoroughly test their circuits which may incorporate whatever topology and quality components to achieve their design goals! The proof is in their measured test results, data, etc. and verifiable by anyone (buyer) with appropriate test equipment! If CJ is willing to share their measurements with you, hence your verification, thus NOT an "opinion"! Understand the difference?

Vhiner: "Now, back to my main question: could you please post the academic studies you consult before you buy your equipment. I'm eager for the bedtime reading."

>>> Every piece of my audio equipment has documented specifications from the manufacturer, all of which are verifiable via test equipment measurements, thus holding the manufacturer liable should results not match based on their testing criteria. Same goes for most electronics in general besides audio.

Now, I'll ask you again! Where is all the documented test results or written specifications from the manufacturer's of your fancy fuses? Gee, why is it that they don't offer any? What about the ever-growing list of exotic cable manufacturers? ...Printed specifications for performance attributes other than wire gage and plug specifications? Hmmm, yeah!