"Brand New"...I don't think so

As oppposed to totally new etc. It trouble me when an item has been tried out by the original buyer who doesn't care for it and then reselling it as new. I wouldn't have an issue with "As New" but some people seem to need to push the linits. No matter how new it looks fells etc. when it's not it is not new period end of story. Thanks for letting me vent. The upside is that you already know the seller isn't completely honest and that it is best to stav away.

I always wondered what the difference is between " new" and "brand new"

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In the movie "Defending Your LIfe" with Albert Brooks and Meryl Streep, Als character is chatting with someone else who has passed on, awaiting the decision to go the next level of life, and asks what he did for a living.
The guy replied, "You know those strip joints out by the airport? The ones that state "Nude Girls"? Well business was down until I put up "Live" before "Nude Girls". Then the customers started coming in.

All the best,
Nonoise

If box is opened its not new. It will have to be sold as a demo.

Swanny may be right. I have a friend who bought one of these NEW with an opened box items and received a NEW item in a sealed box. I think the dealers are doing this to move inventory at a discount without having their dealship pulled.