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What Does Holographic Sound Like?

And how do you get there? This is an interesting question. I have finally arrived at a very satisfying level of holography in my system. But it has taken a lot of time, effort and money to get there. I wish there had been a faster, easier and less expensive way to get there. But I never found one.

Can you get to a high level of holography in your system with one pair of interconnects and one pair of speaker wires? I don't believe so. I run cables in series. I never found one pair of interconnects and speaker wires that would achieve what has taken a heck of a lot of wires and "tweaks" to achieve. Let alone all the power cords that I run in series. Although I have found one special cable that has enabled the system to reach a very high level of holography -- HiDiamond -- I still need to run cables in series for the sound to be at its holographic best.

There are many levels of holography. Each level is built incrementally with the addition of one more wire and one more "tweak". I have a lot of wires and "tweaks" in my system. Each cable and each "tweak" has added another level to the holography. Just when I thought things could not get any better -- which has happened many times -- the addition of one more cable or "tweak" enabled the system to reach a higher level yet.

Will one "loom" do the job. I never found that special "loom". To achieve the best effects I have combined cables from Synergistic Research, Bybee, ASI Liveline, Cardas, Supra and HiDiamond -- with "tweaks" too numerous to mention but featuring Bybee products and a variety of other products, many of which have the word "quantum" in their description.

The effort to arrive at this point with my system has been two-fold. Firstly, finding the right cables and "tweaks" for the system. Secondly, finding where to place them in the system for the best effects -- a process of trial and error. A lot of cables and "tweaks" had to be sold off in the process. I put "tweaks" in quotation marks because the best "tweaks" in my system have had as profound effect as the components on the sound. The same for the best of the cables, as well. For me, cables and "tweaks" are components.

Have I finally "arrived"? I have just about arrived at the best level that I can expect within my budget -- there are a couple of items on the way. In any case, I assume there are many levels beyond what my system has arrived at. But since I'll never get there I am sitting back and enjoying the music in the blissful recognition that I don't know what I am missing.

I should mention that there are many elements that are as important as holography for the sound to be satisfying, IMO. They include detail, transparency, coherence, tonality, and dynamics, among others. My system has all of these elements in good measure.

Have you had success with holographic sound in your system? If so, how did you get there?
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Regarding the OP's topic, I'm still with my original post on 9/14 which I think was also the first (maybe the last?) to actually address the topic at hand in a practical manner.
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Well, this thread seems to have established at least one thing with a high degree of conclusiveness. Those having backgrounds in defense electronics constitute a diverse group. :-)

Best regards,
-- Al
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Al,

Small sample set, but it would not surprise me....

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sabai OP
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Geoffkait,
You can say anything true or false here about anything or anyone -- that is your right.

You can say anything true or false about me -- that is your right.

You can say anything true or false about Jack Bybee or his products -- that is your right.

You can use this thread as a bully-pulpit as much as you like and for as long as you like -- that is your right.

You can attempt to dominate this thread as long as you like -- that is your right.

You can attempt to hijack this thread as long as you like -- that is your right.

You can talk off the top of your head until everyone -- except me -- dies of exhaustion -- that is your right.

You can talk off the top of your head until everyone dies of sheer boredom -- that is your right.

You can do as you wish on this free forum -- that is your right.

You have as many rights as you proclaim on this thread -- that is your right.
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Geoffkait,
You just revealed more that you realize. Anyone who uses Jack Bybee's products in their system will know exactly what I am talking about. In other words, you have NO idea what you are saying when you talk about his products. And if you knew Jack Bybee you would never make the kind of inane comments about him that you posted here.

Jack Bybee's products are "controversial"? And I "must be living in a cave somewhere"? Man, you're what we used to call in the 1950s "a phony". I have upwards of 20 Bybee products in my system. Let me repeat in special English for those who may be "challenged": You have NO idea what you're talking about. My BS meter just had the needle go haywire with your name written all over it.

You are the proverbial chameleon who shows a different color to match the background. Which is why, as Bryoncunningham so astutely observed recently, you have no clear identity. He has no idea who he is taking to when he talks to you -- and neither do I. You are the classic case of the opportunist who will say whatever it takes in order to keep attention focused on himself.

Now, instead of the hawking vendor, you turn into the pseudo-expert and the forum bully. Not that I give a damn -- I am too old for such nonsense -- I believe you are the only one here who will characterize me as closed-minded and self-satisfied. It is truly "bizarre" when you refer to things that I do as "unusual" and in the next breath you call me closed-minded.

How can a person who does so many interesting, experimental and "unusual" things be characterized as "closed-minded"? Only a vendor like you with an obvious agenda could be so inane -- and so crassly self-serving. I say "like you" because vendors like Bobby Palkovic and Ted Denney who contribute to these forums are in a different league entirely. They are not pseudo anything. They are helpful, straight as an arrow, and they do not attempt to divert attention to themselves or to hijack threads.

We should start a VENDORS ONLY FORUM on Audiogon for self-centered people like you to spout off and pontificate to your heart's desire without other threads having to endure your exquisitely boring but oh-so-clever commentaries that fulfill your agenda to divert attention away from the intended topic in order to dominate the thread and promote your vendor's agenda. You are using this forum as a marketing tool -- and you are doing so in a most crass way. This reveals your level of consciousness.

If anyone is "pushing" anything here it it certainly you, the bully-vendor of last resort. Yes, you have the right to "post here and express" your ideas. And, yes, I have the right to call you on your hijacking this thread with endlessly inane commentaries. I started this thread and I am as free to say this loud and clear as you are to try to dominate here and to sabotage the original intent of this thread. If the moderator wishes to terminate this thread to force you to do your inane posting elsewhere I will be only to happy to see this happen. Otherwise, you can fully expect me to keep calling you on your inane behavior.

You have a sense of grandiosity that equals your sense of inanity. Have no fear, nothing you could possibly sell or say would ever "threaten" me -- or impress me. I've been around the block more times than you have had Sunday dinners. Do not try to bully or to insult or to intimidate me here without a very firm response. Do not expect that you will be able to do ANYTHING to make me leave this thread to your devices. It ain't gonna happen. As long as this thread is here I will be here. I will not let you dominate or hijack this thread.
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