Can I run my Amp from a Line Conditioner?


HELLO GROUP, I HAVE A SUNFIRE CINEMA GRAND AMP AND A MONSTER HTS-5000 LINE CONDITIONER, DOES THIS LIMIT MY AMP? I ALREADY HAVE A 65" PROJECTION UNIT AND VCR,DVD,SAT,HARMAN RECEIVER AND HARMAN AMP,A COOLING FAN AND 2 40 WATT LITES FOR THE STEREO CABINETS PLUGGED INTO THIS.ANY HELP WILL BE APPRECIATED. ALSO I HAVE A SEPERATE 100 AMP ALL COPPER SERVICE ENTRANCE DEDICATED TO THIS AUDIO ROOM. THANKS,RICK
monroe2
Monroe2,

I also have the Monster 5000. I decided to pick up the
Monster HTS 1000 also to avoid any problems (about 100 bucks
brand new on Yahoo shopping). My configuration is as follows:

2 dedicated lines 10GA one for audio one for video.

5000 with all audio including 120wpc 6ch amp, pre, cd,
dac.

1000 with HD reciever, 65 TV, DVD. Also plugging sub into
empty slot on second dedicated wall plug.

Basically for 100 more bucks you can get some extra insurance against TV, Cable noise ect... Getting into
your audio and also assure your amp has juice that it
needs. I have not had any signs of distress from system
In this configuration.

By the way i think somebody mentioned in one of the responses about isolating ana and dig... The Monster 5000 does have isolation circuits for digital and analog comps.

Good luck...
You are the best one to decide if the HTS is limiting dynamics: just use your ears. My guess is that it *might*.

Also FWIW:
Basic power amps and powered subs do not need surge suppression because we feel they are adequately protected by their own internal transformers
The above is absolutely an untrue statement; I have had two unfortunate experiences to the contrary.
The best way to find out try it for one week to settle
all the equipment attach to it,if it is obviously
not working, then you might want to buy the ultimate
power outlet of ps audio, high current,it works
for me.
I am, frankly, shocked that RGPC would make the claim that Bob's unfortunate experience would prove false (along with a number of others'). Suppose they would replace your power amp if such occured after making this claim? Um, prolly not......

OK, I have advice regarding pluggin the power amp straight into the wall socket, but NOT without regard to surge dangers.
To put things into perspective, your amp alone can EASILY pull 20+ amps by itself if you are throttling the volume control. You have to remember that this amp is FIVE x 200 wpc @ 8 ohms or FIVE x 400 wpc @ 4 ohms.

A review i have of the standard ( non-Signature version ) of the 2 channel Sunfire ( 300 wpc x 2 @ 8 ohms ) had them easily tripping 15 amp circuits when trying to measure this amp on the bench. Now consider that this amp is "only" 600 watts @ 8 ohms( both channels combined ) and your amp is rated at 1000 watts @ 8 ohms ( all channels combined ) and you might begin to get the picture. I'm not saying that you'll ever push your system to drawing that much power or have all of the channels "pumping" at once, but this might give you a better idea of what you'll need in terms of the amount of current that a "filter" or "surge suppressor" would need to pass without restriction.

Personally, I found out about this the hard way. I was running my Sunfire Signature that powers the mains in my HT system ( 3 - 4 ohm 86 dB speakers ) and sent the amp into thermal shutdown on two different occasions. Bare in mind that this amp is rated at 1200 wpc @ 4 ohms and actually maxes out ( goes into clipping ) at about 1450 - 1480 wpc at that impedance. That is, IF you can feed it enough voltage and current from the wall to maintain that level. While i sent the amp back into Sunfire for a check-up and some upgrade modifications, i came to find out that the amp WAS being choked with a 20 amp circuit feeding it. Needless to say, i was kind of shocked but not in disbelief. Obviously, it takes BIG power if you want to make BIG power.

Since you have a dedicated breaker box, your best bet might be to check into surge suppression at the box itself rather than limit what the amp can draw. This would protect EVERYTHING in your system at the same time and it would do this without introducing momentary voltage sag into the rest of the system. You have to remember that as the amp tries to pull current for momentary surges, it would be doing so at the expense of all of the other components that were connected to the PLC. Take that a step further and realize that ALL of your components in the system are now fed by the ONE power cord that feeds the PLC and you can see where a power restriction could easily take place.

To put things into perspective real quick, an amp of this size should have its' own power feed and NOT be tied into a common PLC that feeds the rest of the system. Sean
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