Sunfire's new "Ultimate Receiver worth 4 grand?

The unit has the preamp section of the Theater Grand III, which is a very good prepro, I used to sell them as a rep for sunfire... the issue for you will be will two hundred watts per channel suffice for an indefinite length of time, long enough to pay back the 4K.... personally, it looks like a home run unless your into changing gear in and out....

it has 9 channel pre-outs, so it is expandable to separates - good way to start off and get the prepro of TGIII with some good quality amps built in until you want external amps. Only difference is that the TGIII has balanced outs, the UR's are unbalanced. Still seems like a fair trade off.

The cost is more? There must be 3 or more EAD Ovations for sale here (note: including mine) that are AMAZING in 2-channel and great in 5 channel. They all go for less than $2000. I'm sure there are plenty of alternatives, too. For your remaining $2000, look for a powermaster 1000, 200w/5channel. There's one for sale right now for $1800. It'll distribute all power to 2 channels when playing CDs, but it'll spread even power to all 5 when watching a movie. These are GREAT components. The guy selling the powermaster 1000 also has an encore proc for sale and is willing to sell BOTH for $3100. You have PLENTY of choices to go separates if you'd like.