why does triod mode sound better than ultralinear?


I know this has been debated.... I just bought a CJ MV-60. It is factory set for ulta linear. It can be reconfigured for triod but it takes a mod. I'm just wondering why it *should* sound better... I would hate to give up 1/2 the power without understanding why.

Thanks
Bruce
btrvalik
the shorter the signal path the greater the sound. under this theory SET is the best with single- power tube and possibly directly coupled(OTL). there are not too many speakers that are efficient and full range and in cases otherwise the greater power is needed.
i use triode mode in my VTLs despite having low-efficient speakers on the following reasons:
1. i have a small listening distance
2. i can hear more notes and instruments where every part of instrument is so clearly heard that you can hear button switching noise even in big bands.
Despite what you might imply from Marakanetz' post, the signal path will be no shorter in triode mode than it is in ultralinear, though there will be fewer engaged elements inside the power tubes. Unfortunately, with the C-J amps it's not as simple as flipping a 'triode' switch to do this experiment (unlike the VTL's, which BTW are not otherwise wired in ultralinear but regular pentode), as the amp needs to go back to the factory for the modification. Going triode will not be a panacea or unequivocal gain - what you pick up in purity you will probably lose in extension and drive. FWIW, as a MV-55 owner (who now uses VTL's) I once investigated this procedure (since I live about 25 minutes from the C-J factory), and learned that C-J estimates that at least half of the audiophiles who try this mod wind up getting their amp converted back to ultralinear operation in the end. This tells me that unless you have quite efficient speakers, a smaller room, and prefer to listen mostly to smaller-scale acoustic and/or vocal music, you'll probably be better off overall using your MV-60 the way it came.
Can someone give us the basic circuit design differences and theory behind ultra-linear and triode? I have heard the two and it is clearly a trade off, but what I do not know is the circuit operation and how it directly affects what I am hearing. (clearly tube amplification is not my area of expertise--but I do enjoy dabbling in tubes).
Thanks for the info... Most of my question is just because I'm a EE geek and new to tubes. I to am interested in the circuit design. I have ProAc Tabletts which I think are somewhere in the 87 db range. I use these with a HGS-10 subwoofer which is not some peoples favorite but it's size solved a huge placement issue for me. I love the sound of this amp in ultralinear but I just gots to know....
The "ultra-linear" configuration was developed by Mullard to sell their EL34 pentode. It generally differs from a typical SET in that the SET usually has two tubes per channel - driver (eg 6SN7, 6922) and output (eg 2A3, 45, 300b). An ul amp will usually have four tubes per channel - an input pentode (EF86), a triode phase splitter (ECC83) and two output EL34 tubes - and it splits the signal. This is a push-pull type confuration whereas the SET is a straight-thru amplifier. The difference is that the SET sees fewer signal manipulation than the ul, similar to Class A transistor vs Class A/B push-pull ss amps. The "ultra-linear" name does not describe signal linearity but instead describes the way the EL34's are connected to the transformer (both the anode and the screen grid are connected - to stabilize the whole setup).

The trade off is power for the signal linearity of the SET (I agree with Marakanetz, SET signal path is usually shorter). Of course, it does not mean one is better than the other - there are excellent ultra-linear designs (Mullard 5-20) that can give the best of both worlds.