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Use of Digital Amps: Need serious help

Hi i recently got out of the audio deal and sold my entire system. It was too much for me. While randomly scouring the net i came across an interesting product the Spectron Musician II. This amp essentially has a dac built into it. Apparently all digital amps take the analog signal that you send it and use an A/D converter to digitize it, then amplify it digitally and send the signal to the speakers. The Spectron (along with the new Tact 2150) allows you to never covert the signal to analog ever, and i mean never, the signal is digital (which makes no sense actually) when it reaches the speakers. So in effect all you need is a transport because the Spectron and the Tact both have built in volume controls. So now this allows me to have a potentially extremely very good system, (I know the tact and spectron are both incredible amps when fed analog signals) for next to nothing. In my old system my cd player, an audio aero mk II which was jaw droppingly good i might add, alone would cost me far more than my entire new system. So now the question is... after all of this... does anyone have any experience with running a purely digital signal versus digitizing an analog one with any of these amps? How good is this technique and how important is it to have a good transport, cost is no object really. I won't reenter the audio world if my new system will not be comparable to my old one. So if anyone knows let me know if this is a good technique. Thanks in advance for your help.
lordgorian
unsound
7,329 posts
 
I heard an all digital TacT system at a show. As such take this with those limitations in mind. I really liked it. Plato, it was not dry, if fact I would describe the sound as liquid. Others found the sound a tad bright. If one thinks in terms of a digitaly propelled electrical signal, then it is all digital. The signal converts PCM to PWM, not to traditional analog. I have great hope for future developments of this technology.
jwmazur
190 posts
 
I can't say that I have heard the Spectron with purely a digital signal but, I have used a passive line stage with it and it was a bit dry. Since then, I have used a tube preamp that sounds fantastic, a giant killer, the MiniMax. It added the warmth and liquidity that made the system more capable of reaching me emotionally. I did not have to break the bank to buy this preamp either. It lists for $1195.

Call Galen Carol Audio, gcaudio.com, in San Antonio. He has both the Spectron and the MiniMax. Plus, he is a super guy to deal with and will give you a fair deal along with the experience he has in running the Spectron using a digital signal. Tell him I sent you. Good luck.
bigkidz
3,381 posts
 
I had the Musician II in my system and while it was one of the cleanest sounding amps I heard, I did not select it for my system. My old Kinergetics just sounded better. Note that there was not that great of a sonic improvement with the comparison of the twelve amps I auditioned, just slight differences in most cases.

micdrew
1 posts
 
I use a Tact M2150 digital amp with a modified Theta Data Basic II CD transport. Speaker are Vandy's and the cables and power cords are Omega Mikro and Silent Source. I'm very happy with the sound. It is not the least bit dry or analytical, but rather smooth and extended. I've had several systems throughout the years and this one's my personal favorite. Tact also has an optional ADC that can be installed by anyone in just a few minutes. This is a very simple and cost effective setup that has saved me money and honestly I'm more than pleased with the sound.
peter_s
1,335 posts
 
LG,

I just want to share my understanding of how digital amps work - derived from the PS Audio page for the HCA-2 (a Class D digital "switching amp"). In your entry, you note that:

"Apparently all digital amps take the analog signal that you send it and use an A/D converter to digitize it, then amplify it digitally and send the signal to the speakers."

That is generally true, but I think it's important to recognize that the HCA-2 doesnt' digitize the analog signal into a digital pattern such as that found on a CD. Instead of trying to simulate the wave form that represents the music, what it is doing is giving the amp instructions to pass 100% of its power generation through or to cut it off, and the timing of those "ons" and "offs" is modified by circuitry to then create the wave form. So, the pattern of "offs" and "ons" the amp generates is different than the digital waveform shown on a CD. Perhaps the Spectron and the TacT work differently, but this is my understanding of how the HCA-2 works. If this is correct, "all" digital amps are not the same.

Clarification welcome! I hope this is useful. Peter
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