Reference DACS: An overall perspective


There has been many threads the last few months regarding the sonic signature of some of the highest regarded reference DACS (Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) here on the GON. I have been very fortunate to audtion many of these wonderful pieces in my home or friend's systems. I wanted to share, in a systematic way, my impressions/opinions with you GON members for a two reasons: 1)That my experiences might be helpful to fellow members interested in audtioning these DACS. 2)Starting an interesting discussion regarding the different "sonic flavors" of these reference digital front ends. I totally agree with the statement, "if you have not heard it you don't have an opinion". Therefore, I have no comments regarding DACS from Weiss,Goldmund,Audio Aero and Burmester because I have never had the pleasure of audtioning them. I would love to hear from members who have and share their experiences with us. My overall impression is that these DACS(Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) can be grouped into two molar categories regarding their overall sonic signature. By the way, all of them can throw a large/deep soundstage with excellent layering in the acoustic space with "air" around individual players on that stage. However, than they start to part company into two major categories. Category #1) These DACS "flavors" revolve around pristine clarity, fine sharp details,speed,very extended top/bottom frequencies,and great PRAT. These DACS never sound "etched" or "in your face" but are more "upfront" then "layed back" in their presentation. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Dcs,Ensemble,Meitner. My personnal favorite in this group is the Ensemble, which I owned for two years. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Wilson,Thiel,Dynaudio, Focal/JM Labs. Category #2) These DACS "flavors" revolve around a "musical/organic" sense, natural timbres,and an easy flowing liquidity. Their "less forward" presentation my give the impression of less detail, but I think in this case its an illusion fostered by their more relaxed/organic manner. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts. I did find that the tube DACS did not have the top/bottom frequency extenstion and PRAT of the SS DACS in this bracket. For me, the Accustic Arts DAC1-MK3 gave me the best of both categories, therefore it is now the resident DAC in my system. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Magnepan,Von Schweikert,Sonus Faber. Well, it's all just my opinion regarding these digital pieces, but I hope this post was at least informative/somewhat interesting and would lend itself to other GON members sharing their impressions, not about what DAC is the "BEST" in the world, but your personnal taste and synergy with your system.
teajay
Hi, to all of you. I just had the pleasure of moving into my new home, which was designed to be a total open design for my system. 18 foot walls with a 23 foot ceiling and just about perfect regarding not being too bright or damped in the 30 by 50 living space.

Also, had dedicated circuits installed for the system. The real killer is its the first time I could have my MG-20r's five and a half feet off the back wall and still be able to sit at least 12 to 14 feet off of them.

The change is just beautiful to behold and listen to, my sound stage is now the most realistic I have ever heard in my own home with breathtaking air around each individual player. The great virtues of details, natural timbres, and deep powerful tuneful bass that my system had before are now even more combined in a giant/natural soundstage with individual players staying the right size in the soundstage.

My girlfriend, and co-owner of the house, Amor designed our home around the "big rig" so the acoustic space was a major factor. Got to love her for that! No WAF in play around the setup in this house. I'm a lucky audiophile ain't I!

This news was a little off the track of DACS, but wanted to share my great fortune of sonics with the fellows who on a regular basis share on this thread. Time to go back and listen to some Johnny Griffin blowing some great jazz.
Exlibris, good to hear that CDSD arrived! It will be very interesting to hear your impression about Weiss combo... Only one hint-you will need TWO AES/EBU cables(identical ones) for best possible sound. Without them you will not hear complete Weiss potential.
In two weeks time I will receive Esoteric D-01/P-01/G-0s combo and of course-report here is mandatory! Krell EVO 505 will arrive in my systems in early April... EMMLabs gear-hope to have them in March...
After a few days of burn-in I have come to some conclusions:

1. The EMM Labs combo is shockingly good. It is extremely transparent and lifelike. I am officially eating my words.

2. The best way to use these is with EMM's 'ST Glass' cables. Using the Stealth Sextet Varidig AES-EBU to carry the audio signal; a BNC cable to carry the clock signal; and the DCC2 as the master clock, led to a presentation that could best be described as "confused" in comparison with the ST Glass cables.

This proves that my predictions about how things will sound are amazingly consistent; I am wrong almost 100% of the time. At least I know that I am not falling victim to the 'placebo effect.'

Branimir,
I will hang on to my Stealth cable to do the Weiss test.
My guess is that I will be staying with EMM and that I will be wanting to sell the cable afterwards. I wish I had a second one to properly evaluate the Weiss combo.

Teajay,
The two categories that you put forth to begin this thread are still very valuable but I have to say that after hearing the EMM combo it has led me to a paradigm shift when thinking about digital.
I had previously thought that digital was a very flawed medium and the best we could really hope for was to pick a 'flavour' that we could live with.
I believe that the EMM gear transcends the 'flavour' dichotomy. It just sounds so right, so correct, and so real, in comparison with everything else that I've heard so far.
Exlibris, I am glad that my advice regarding CDSD was right. My guess was that EMMLabs DCC2 would sound very best with CDSD-very good that is the case(for your pocket!).
Regarding Weiss combo, it is an imperative to use absolutely identical two AES/EBU cables between Medea and Jason. Otherwise things will sound very strange indeed...
So, is digital search over for you or are you entering "eazy" search mode...?
Exlibris,

Glad you are enjoying music with the EMM combo. Just want to let you know to let the CDSD break-in on both CD and SACD for a long time. At least 500 hrs before it will sound its best. I'm loving my combo and have yet to hear anything better from digital.

All the best and enjoy!

Tom