Reference DACS: An overall perspective


There has been many threads the last few months regarding the sonic signature of some of the highest regarded reference DACS (Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) here on the GON. I have been very fortunate to audtion many of these wonderful pieces in my home or friend's systems. I wanted to share, in a systematic way, my impressions/opinions with you GON members for a two reasons: 1)That my experiences might be helpful to fellow members interested in audtioning these DACS. 2)Starting an interesting discussion regarding the different "sonic flavors" of these reference digital front ends. I totally agree with the statement, "if you have not heard it you don't have an opinion". Therefore, I have no comments regarding DACS from Weiss,Goldmund,Audio Aero and Burmester because I have never had the pleasure of audtioning them. I would love to hear from members who have and share their experiences with us. My overall impression is that these DACS(Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) can be grouped into two molar categories regarding their overall sonic signature. By the way, all of them can throw a large/deep soundstage with excellent layering in the acoustic space with "air" around individual players on that stage. However, than they start to part company into two major categories. Category #1) These DACS "flavors" revolve around pristine clarity, fine sharp details,speed,very extended top/bottom frequencies,and great PRAT. These DACS never sound "etched" or "in your face" but are more "upfront" then "layed back" in their presentation. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Dcs,Ensemble,Meitner. My personnal favorite in this group is the Ensemble, which I owned for two years. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Wilson,Thiel,Dynaudio, Focal/JM Labs. Category #2) These DACS "flavors" revolve around a "musical/organic" sense, natural timbres,and an easy flowing liquidity. Their "less forward" presentation my give the impression of less detail, but I think in this case its an illusion fostered by their more relaxed/organic manner. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts. I did find that the tube DACS did not have the top/bottom frequency extenstion and PRAT of the SS DACS in this bracket. For me, the Accustic Arts DAC1-MK3 gave me the best of both categories, therefore it is now the resident DAC in my system. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Magnepan,Von Schweikert,Sonus Faber. Well, it's all just my opinion regarding these digital pieces, but I hope this post was at least informative/somewhat interesting and would lend itself to other GON members sharing their impressions, not about what DAC is the "BEST" in the world, but your personnal taste and synergy with your system.
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I'm open to hearing anything in my own set-up to evaluate which I have actually done allot and currently I haven't heard any of these devises no matter how much they cost making me want to part with my MBL 1621a/AA Tube Dac combo except say my vinyl set-up.

When I personally heard the Memory Player for example, (not the latest version, they seem to change allot) exspensive pce. too, some listening were overly excited saying this and that but personally the exsperience left me scratching my head wondering what the heck are they hearing. Yes it sounded good, yes it was more convinient once you took the time and got it all loaded up with music but no way did I see my self trading in my combo any time soon.

Looking forward to hearing some of the latest and greatest to see if there are any changes.

In the end just enjoy!
Hi Dev,

That was very interesting to read. I myself bought a Zanden DAC (s/hand) about 2 years ago because i wanted the flexibility for the future. (for now, not too focused on high-res...particularly given price/performance of my Zanden second-hand).

I thought i would be moving faster on server...and have not been impressed by the little i've heard...and am actually thinking now i (might) go with a really nice (s/hand) transport to hold me over for the next 5 years or so with my existing redbook until the servers really take over properly. i suspect it might be as long as 2+ years before someone really figures this out...and even a bit longer to make it truly plug and play. so far, i have seen nothing as easy/reliable as plugging in a transport, dropping in a CD and pressing play...
For $6K the PS Audio Perfect Wav trans and dac are hard to beat. The transport is a buffered memory player (play DVD's with up 24/192 wav files) with a digital lense reclock of the singal handed off to the DAC via HDMI. The DAC handles all sampling frequencies up to 24/192 natively or one can upsample up to 24/192. I have found playing any bit depth, sampling rate to sound best played native. PS Audio also recommends this.
I agree that for the price the PS Audio pieces offer a good sonic performance, however they are no were close to the level of AA Tube reference DAC on redbook. I just again heard the latest generation PS Audio combo and fine it OK, but nothing to write home about if we are talking state of the art performance.

I agree with Dev, that the AA Tube DAC and MBL reference transport are still my favorite combo compared to everything I still listen to or audition.