Reference DACS: An overall perspective


There has been many threads the last few months regarding the sonic signature of some of the highest regarded reference DACS (Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) here on the GON. I have been very fortunate to audtion many of these wonderful pieces in my home or friend's systems. I wanted to share, in a systematic way, my impressions/opinions with you GON members for a two reasons: 1)That my experiences might be helpful to fellow members interested in audtioning these DACS. 2)Starting an interesting discussion regarding the different "sonic flavors" of these reference digital front ends. I totally agree with the statement, "if you have not heard it you don't have an opinion". Therefore, I have no comments regarding DACS from Weiss,Goldmund,Audio Aero and Burmester because I have never had the pleasure of audtioning them. I would love to hear from members who have and share their experiences with us. My overall impression is that these DACS(Dcs,Meitner,Ensemble,Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts) can be grouped into two molar categories regarding their overall sonic signature. By the way, all of them can throw a large/deep soundstage with excellent layering in the acoustic space with "air" around individual players on that stage. However, than they start to part company into two major categories. Category #1) These DACS "flavors" revolve around pristine clarity, fine sharp details,speed,very extended top/bottom frequencies,and great PRAT. These DACS never sound "etched" or "in your face" but are more "upfront" then "layed back" in their presentation. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Dcs,Ensemble,Meitner. My personnal favorite in this group is the Ensemble, which I owned for two years. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Wilson,Thiel,Dynaudio, Focal/JM Labs. Category #2) These DACS "flavors" revolve around a "musical/organic" sense, natural timbres,and an easy flowing liquidity. Their "less forward" presentation my give the impression of less detail, but I think in this case its an illusion fostered by their more relaxed/organic manner. The DACS, to my ear's, that go into this bracket are Audio Note,Zanden,Reimyo,Accustic Arts. I did find that the tube DACS did not have the top/bottom frequency extenstion and PRAT of the SS DACS in this bracket. For me, the Accustic Arts DAC1-MK3 gave me the best of both categories, therefore it is now the resident DAC in my system. These DACS remind me of the sonic signature of speakers such as Magnepan,Von Schweikert,Sonus Faber. Well, it's all just my opinion regarding these digital pieces, but I hope this post was at least informative/somewhat interesting and would lend itself to other GON members sharing their impressions, not about what DAC is the "BEST" in the world, but your personnal taste and synergy with your system.
teajay
Hi Dev,

That was very interesting to read. I myself bought a Zanden DAC (s/hand) about 2 years ago because i wanted the flexibility for the future. (for now, not too focused on high-res...particularly given price/performance of my Zanden second-hand).

I thought i would be moving faster on server...and have not been impressed by the little i've heard...and am actually thinking now i (might) go with a really nice (s/hand) transport to hold me over for the next 5 years or so with my existing redbook until the servers really take over properly. i suspect it might be as long as 2+ years before someone really figures this out...and even a bit longer to make it truly plug and play. so far, i have seen nothing as easy/reliable as plugging in a transport, dropping in a CD and pressing play...
For $6K the PS Audio Perfect Wav trans and dac are hard to beat. The transport is a buffered memory player (play DVD's with up 24/192 wav files) with a digital lense reclock of the singal handed off to the DAC via HDMI. The DAC handles all sampling frequencies up to 24/192 natively or one can upsample up to 24/192. I have found playing any bit depth, sampling rate to sound best played native. PS Audio also recommends this.
I agree that for the price the PS Audio pieces offer a good sonic performance, however they are no were close to the level of AA Tube reference DAC on redbook. I just again heard the latest generation PS Audio combo and fine it OK, but nothing to write home about if we are talking state of the art performance.

I agree with Dev, that the AA Tube DAC and MBL reference transport are still my favorite combo compared to everything I still listen to or audition.
04-07-11: Teajay
I agree that for the price the PS Audio pieces offer a good sonic performance, however they are no were close to the level of AA Tube reference DAC on redbook. I just again heard the latest generation PS Audio combo and fine it OK, but nothing to write home about if we are talking state of the art performance.

I agree with Dev, that the AA Tube DAC and MBL reference transport are still my favorite combo compared to everything I still listen to or audition.

The PS Audio doesn't use tubes, so what your saying is you like the sound of tubes ? That really has nothing to do with the D/A conversion, ect. It's just the output stage. For me, tubes color the sound which can be nice. It all comes down to preference and the rest of your system components and how well they work with your DAC of choice. When it comes to top level dacs, we are really talking about the handling of jitter and the analog output stage...The D/A chips are really a moot subject. It all depends on their implementation. For my system, I couldn't be happier with the PW combo. No upsampling required although you can if you want. I play everything Native whether it's 16/44 or 24/192.

In the end, my analog rig kicks any digital rig's butt...that's another subject all together. (wink) When you can listen to a digital rig and not get listening fatique after a couple of hours listening like analog, you have found you digital frontend nirvahnna. For me, that is the PW System.