D_edwards, I am not at all confused about Classe.
As you mentioned, they have sounded pretty much the same for the past decade. We are totally in agreement here. Where we differ is in what we hear.
What I was expecting to hear was power and assuredness of the large, muscular, solid state amps it has competed with when I have listened to them. The Counterpoints, Krells, Levinsons, and Rowlands of the respective time. They do not. Like I said, they ALWAYS sound a lot less powerful than their size or power ratings categorize them as. I was expecting sound along the Jeff Rowland line, powerful and assured, but on the refined and relaxed side. Again, not so. Instead I hear a nervous, threadbare, thin sound.
The speakers I have heard them with have not been cold, analytical, or bleached out. They were Maggies, Vandersteens, and Egglestons, all of which I would argue are the opposite of what I heard.
Again, we agree that these amps have been consistent, we diverge on what we hear.
As you mentioned, they have sounded pretty much the same for the past decade. We are totally in agreement here. Where we differ is in what we hear.
What I was expecting to hear was power and assuredness of the large, muscular, solid state amps it has competed with when I have listened to them. The Counterpoints, Krells, Levinsons, and Rowlands of the respective time. They do not. Like I said, they ALWAYS sound a lot less powerful than their size or power ratings categorize them as. I was expecting sound along the Jeff Rowland line, powerful and assured, but on the refined and relaxed side. Again, not so. Instead I hear a nervous, threadbare, thin sound.
The speakers I have heard them with have not been cold, analytical, or bleached out. They were Maggies, Vandersteens, and Egglestons, all of which I would argue are the opposite of what I heard.
Again, we agree that these amps have been consistent, we diverge on what we hear.