Von Schweikert VR4JR & Tube Amp???

Unfortunetaly the vr4j got wonderful reviews, but, it has a boomy, sloe and fat bass, and roll offed highs. The best I have heard it was with the Manley Stringay. But only at moderate sound level. At higher level, the music has collapsed. Now, the dealer had a trick to 'calibrate' the vr4j. He half filled a small bottle (like one for medicine) with various small pieces of minerals. That made the sound 'harder', less boomy and gave more sense of top extension. They acted like the well reviewed acoustic resonators, but for nothing. Try it.

Ajahu,
What utter nonsense...My bass is fast and articulate. Highs are sweet and extended. Something is terribly wrong with the setup(s) you heard. These speakers are by no means the last word but they are excellent for 4K and well beyond. The better the up front electronics the better these play. Tubes will certainly make them sound even better. But Bass issues ??? hardly...

good listening

Well said, Arkio. One mistake people often make with the Jr's is to not fill their chamber with shot or sand. Most who know about these consider this essential to set-up. As with any speaker attention to set-up and room acoustics is vital.

Ajahu,

VR4jr has the best bass at it's price point of any speaker. Unfortunately, for you it recieved outstanding reviews, but for the rest of us living in the land of reality, we were thrilled to hear it. Go back to your sad bass lacking system and continue to be jelous ;)

Rob, and merril,

The Best sound I've heard in a number of years came as recently as two years ago or less... with the Jr'S DRIVEN by Thor TA1000 mkII, and 30 wpc mono blocks... new tag = 19K. ...but 30 wpc! I didn't rail the volume though. average to above average levels.. Everything was there... though the bottom end could have been tighter a bit... no shot in them according to the dealer. Also, i think he was using a Chang Light speed unit too.... can't say for sure but likely. Sweet a sound as I've yet to hear in reproduced music. Organic, natural,solid, and full. No abbberations, top to bottom. Au24 wire too, as he was big on that then. 30 watts. Amazing. and not the most efficient speaker either. Wow.

Merril...
the diagnol extends from the corner of the room behind the speakers to the corner of the rectangle closer to the center of the room... sorry I was obtuse. Stand in the corner behind the unit with your back to the 'rear' wall and one shoulder against the side wall... step off eight feet, (five in a small room), then turn towrads the center of the room, or the opposite side wall, or jsut the other speaker... and step off five feet, (three in a smaller room), at that point look back to where you began.... that's the diagonal line to which the units are placed on... just centering the bass onto the line.. keeping the units parrallel to each other.. and the adjacent walls, both rear and sides... will eliminate or almost eliminate two of the three room nodes... (whether in fact this is an absolute or not, I can't say...), and it is a tremendous step in the right direction. As others posted, room treatments are necessary all the time.. though often dismissed... as it's just so murky a deal. IMO. Wher to hang what? How much? etc... Almost need an alchemist... or seance. Shot, and isolation are my next or actually, a curent process for me... a very slow process.. Likely it'll be curtains and foam diffusers behind the curtains... but I thinhk I'm also gonna close off the two halways, and replace the dry wall with 5/8 inch instead of the thin junk I got now...adding some center braces offset between the 16" OC STUDS, ALONG THE WAY.... gOOD LUCK...

OH, AND TOE IN imo IS A PREFFERENCE THING.. ONCE THEY'RE IN PLACE LITTLE IS NEEDED... ALTHOUGH i HAVE HAD AS MUCH AS 5.5 INCHES AT ONE POINT... NOT NOW THOUGH.