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Any Pink Floyd Historians?

In my days as a young audiophile, I spent a lot of time listening to various DSOTM recordings. I also enjoyed the Wall, but never really delved more deeply into Wish You Were Here, Animals or Pink Floyd's earlier albums. Now, however, I have been studying some of the chords on the piano and would love to learn more:

Could someone please comment on the evolution of their music? Which CDs would you recommend for further study?

My other questions concerns the members and "spirit" of the band -- I have read that Roger Waters was one of the founders and that everything BEFORE DSOTM was the "best" but also heard someone say "I disagree -- I preferred everything they did BEFORE WATERS" ?!?!??!

And is it just me, or are the lyrics anti business, anti capitalism, does "Money" comments on the evils of greed, were "Pigs" and "Dogs" (Animals) metaphors for greedy businessmen? Was The Wall anti establishment regarding the English school system, or could Waters really have written it as a rant against "stadium rock" as I read in one interview?

If so, how would you reconcile all of this with the fact that the band was (is?) wildly successful and presumably very rich?

Any and all comments on Pink Floyd greatly appreciated as I try to learn more and further explore their music.

Thanks and best wishes.
cwlondon
twl
3,251 posts
 
Just get all the early albums, starting with the first one, The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, and going all the way to DSOTM. You won't be sorry. That is their best material. They've all been mentioned above. Some is classic, some is bizarre. It's all Pink Floyd at their peak.
egoss
124 posts
 
I guess I'm not a PF purist, but I like RW's "Amused To Death" as one of the best LPs of all time. As for the rest of the PF catalogue, in order, I like:
RW's "Radio KAOS"
PF's "The Division Bell"
"Wish You Were Here"
"The Final Cut"
"The Wall"
"Momentary Lapse Of Reason"

I like Roger's bitter, insightful lyrics & storytelling, and I like David Gilmour's guitar playing & lighter, less serious look at things. I don't know about anyone else, but DSOTM has ben so overplayed that I'm actually tired of hearing it. I own a (gasp!) CD changer for Saturday morning background listening, and it's not uncommon to load up 7 PF & RW CDs to keep me occupied for most of the day. :-)
blkadr
739 posts
 
I agree, the wall was hugely popular and I like it, but their best music, the real creative stuff is on the early albums. Start from the begining and go from there, its worth it. Piper and Saucerful establishe the strange Floyd signature, creative writing mixed with aural mind candy. Half of Umma Gumma is live and half studio. Cool insight into their earlier live show. The studio sides have some great classic Floyd jams and some is strange sound-effect stuff thats fun also. I would buy Atom Heart Mother for cows on the album cover, but the title song, with orchestra is powerful. More and Obscured by Clouds are soundtrack albums with some great songs. Meddle marks the next step in thier sound and Dark Side is considered their crowning glory. Wish You Were Here was a comment on the commercial side of the buiseness after the 'monster' Dark Side was. A lot of fans listen to later Floyd, but for me Dark Side and earlier is the place to go when you need a Floyd fix. There is not one album I would skip, love them all.
duanegoosen
355 posts
 
I guess w/ Floyd, there are alot of different flavors. See Emily Play and Arnold Layne as pop songs had an eerie quality that really stuck out in 67-68 and Interstellar Overdrive had a killer narcotic space rock riff that pretty much gave birth to Hawkwind. The post Meddle stuff has moments that are highly polished and sonically impressive, and I know alot of people really love those recordings, but IMHO they fell prey to a slick formulaic approach that wiped out alot of the mystery and the sense of discovery that made Ummagumma and Meddle work. Fortunately, there are alot of other great bands that can give you a similar high. Anyone know if there is a good digital version of Meddle to be had. The one I have sounds pretty lousy.
rockvirgo
587 posts
 
CWL, early PF had an avant garde cachet. They were far-out compared to their blues based rock contemporaries; holy cow Martha, a synthesizer! Innocent beginnings sometimes spun into shrieking cacophony and resolved into something simple and pretty. This was a novelty to me. Endure the beast to appreciate the beauty; the lesson came in handy later wrestling with Sun Ra.

By comparison, DSOTM was one HUGE piece of candy. What was it, 187 straight weeks on the Billboard top 300? Heck, it might still be on there. So it felt like goodbye hip snob cognoscenti and welcome to the machine. The cat was out of the bag forever. Like a complete tool I sprung for WYWH and Animals but wound up disappointed: more candy.

As far as their message in the post-Meddle lyrics goes I'd say it boils down to join the meaninglessness of existence club for only $14.99 and up.

If you could have only one album get Umma Gumma, an original special price double album deal.
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